Washburn traded to the Tigers

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  • Goober
    Needs a hobby
    • Feb 2009
    • 12271

    #16
    Pretty disappointed the Brewers couldn't get Washburn. I wonder what happened in the trade talks between Seattle and Milwaukee? Did Melvin want to much for Hardy? I can't see the Mariners valuing Wilson more then Hardy.

    Anyways here's something for the Mariner fans, this is what lookout landing had to say on the prospects:
    Update: Luke French and Maurico Robles. Awesome awesome awesome awesome. French is a 23 year old average-looking ML lefty under club control for six more years and is basically what would happen if you went back in time and grabbed Washburn from 11 years ago. Robles is a 20 year old left handed A-baller and helps replace the three guys we gave up for Wilson and Snell. Amazing.

    Updated update: Robles strikes out a lot of people. His swinging strikeout rate is 23%. 23%! Walks are too high but not a big deal. This looks like an absolute steal. Velo goes from 88-93, good curve, working on a changeup. If he gets the change working he's a starter in the bigs.
    Per Salk. Details as we get them. Thank goodness. Update: Luke French and Maurico Robles. Awesome awesome awesome awesome. French is a 23 year old average-looking ML lefty under club control for...

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    • Goober
      Needs a hobby
      • Feb 2009
      • 12271

      #17
      Also after watching Sportscenter it seems that at least Team Kurkjian thinks that Washburn will want to go back to Seattle next year.

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      • Bomberooski
        #GoHawks
        • Feb 2009
        • 10474

        #18
        And the Mariners get French for 6 years for CHEAP. Great news!
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        • Bomberooski
          #GoHawks
          • Feb 2009
          • 10474

          #19
          I am a die hard M's fan and wish I could say that I believe that they are in the race for the AL West but I'm not blind. No chance with or without Washburn for the Mariners to win the West.

          Man that hurts to type.
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          • Blade
            Walking SAM site
            • Feb 2009
            • 3739

            #20
            Good deal for the Tigers and maybe for the M's too. The M's will be good next year, their fans shouldn't worry.

            I thought Wasburn woulda been a good fit in Philly too, but the guy is 34 years old with an expiring contract so I can see why Rube didn't do the trade.

            Things should get interesting, Doc is still in Toronto, and if he doesn't move, once again the best pitcher in baseball is stuck out of the playoffs. Washburn gets to shine in the playoffs again, and Lee gets to prove himself on a national level now.

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            • Buzzman
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2008
              • 6659

              #21
              I dont want Luke Scott. We dont need another guyw ho either strikes ourt or hits a HR. Plus he is not a good LF and we enough DHs on our team.

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              • Buzzman
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2008
                • 6659

                #22
                Theres a diff between not making errors and being too slow in LF. If you cant run and attempt to catch a lot of balls then you have less chance to make an error.

                He was batting 3-36 this july.

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                • Miami Flash15
                  The Jets Suck
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 8696

                  #23
                  Great addition for the Tigers.


                  ROAR


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                  • Kuzzy Powers
                    Beautiful Like Moses
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 12542

                    #24
                    Washburn has been nice this year. The Tigers got a dangerous top 3 with Verlander, Jackson and Washburn. Imagine if a couple of their other pitching prospects could've panned out.. they might have the best rotation in the majors then.

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                    • Kuzzy Powers
                      Beautiful Like Moses
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 12542

                      #25
                      Originally posted by DET Clutch
                      Could have? Like who?

                      If they keep Washburn next season, then you add a Porcello without a inning cap, plus Galarraga who is great when hes right, thats a sick rotation. Thats basically what they have now since Armando is pitching great again.
                      Uhh what about names like Jeremy Bonderman, Kyle Sleeth, Joel Zumaya.. and even guys like Mike Maroth and Nate Robertson who were supposed to be a lot better than they were.

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                      • Kuzzy Powers
                        Beautiful Like Moses
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 12542

                        #26
                        Originally posted by DET Clutch
                        I wasnt being sarcastic about asking who, I was serious.

                        Bonderman had a good year in 06, started 8-0 in 07, then got hit with injuries really since then. Hes never going to be ace thats for sure, Hes a good 4th starter when hes right though. Sleeth was a disaster. I think he was their top pick and now hes out of baseball. Maroth and Robertson just sucked.

                        About Zumaya, that got more than they should have out of him. Hes obviously not done yet, but for a 10th round project he certainly gave them more than you expect.

                        The Tigers viewed a lot of those guys as future ACE's, I really think they were the only people that did.
                        Who said anything aout sarcasm? You asked who and I told you who.

                        All 3 of those guys were once considered top line prospects. None of them have panned out. So basically what im saying is 100% accurate.. if Sleeth or Bonderman pan out, the Tigers rotation might be the best in the majors easily.

                        Perhaps you're misunderstanding what I was saying... I never said any of the players I listed were good major leaguers, but they were all supposed to be.

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                        • Kuzzy Powers
                          Beautiful Like Moses
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 12542

                          #27
                          Originally posted by KleShreen
                          Zumaya was never expected to be a top reliever by any means. He wasn't a high draft pick, and he caught some lightning as a reliever.

                          Sleeth was fine until he blew out his elbow.

                          Bonderman, everyone should have known he would be terrible after his first season.

                          Maroth and Robertson? WTF? They were never ever expected to be good. That's like saying we picked up Ramon Santiago thinking he'd be an all-star every year.
                          Mike Maroth was a top prospect actually.

                          When Robertson came up all you Tigers fans were all over his balls.. how things have changed.

                          Lol @ you Tigers fans and saying you didnt expect anything from Bonderman like Tigers fans werent bonnering over the guy for years before he came up to the majors.

                          And whats the difference if Zumaya was a 10th rounder or not? Dude was a high level prospect and all you Tigers fans dubbed him as the future closer. Real talk.

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                          • Kuzzy Powers
                            Beautiful Like Moses
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 12542

                            #28
                            So you're trying to deny that Bonderman wasnt a top flight prospect in the Tigers organzation.. hell.. in all of baseball?

                            Im not putting words in anyones mouth.. how old are you? Everything ive said has been legit infact. Tigers fans were all over Robertson's jock when he came up (not once did I mention the word ace anywhere, whos the one putting words in other peoples mouths?). Marorth WAS a top flight prospect.. Sleeth WAS a top flight prospect.. Tigers fans were salivating at Joel Zumaya and his 100MPH fastballs. If you're trying to tell me any of this is inaccurate, you're either stupid or cant accept reality.

                            Lol @ how sensitive you two fools have gotten when I threw your team a compliment. I guess you wanted me to flat out declare your rotation the best in baseball instead of saying what it could've been if some of those guys panned out. Sorry, didnt mean to offend you sensitive Tigers fans.

                            Again.. you seem to be FULLY missing the point here. Im not labelling any of these guys as good or will be good.. they were SUPPOSED to be good. If you're trying to tell me Bonderman, Sleeth, Zumaya, and Maroth werent all pegged as good major leaguers you obviously have no clue what you're talking about.
                            Last edited by Kuzzy Powers; 08-02-2009, 01:24 PM.

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                            • Kuzzy Powers
                              Beautiful Like Moses
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 12542

                              #29
                              Hahaha.. so in essence you agree with me then? Why argue then, lol..

                              Geez..

                              And you should be happy.. even without those guys panning out its still one of the best rotations in baseball.

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