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  • BazookaJoe5
    Formerly ravensownall17
    • Feb 2009
    • 1490

    I think starting Saunders when he has such a terrible record in Texas is a terrible decision. Fully aware that Steve Johnson is a rookie who has started all of four games but I'd take the unknown over the known in this situation. Saunders is 3-7 with a 6.48 ERA all time against Texas, and as I mentioned earlier, actually worse, 0-6 with a 9.38 ERA in Arlington. For a guy who plays the numbers as much as Buck, this is an extremely puzzling decision.

    I second guessed wasting Tillman last night, was pretty much on the money with that one, hopefully I'm wrong about this.

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    • ThomasTomasz
      • Nov 2024

      Originally posted by BazookaJoe5
      I think starting Saunders when he has such a terrible record in Texas is a terrible decision. Fully aware that Steve Johnson is a rookie who has started all of four games but I'd take the unknown over the known in this situation. Saunders is 3-7 with a 6.48 ERA all time against Texas, and as I mentioned earlier, actually worse, 0-6 with a 9.38 ERA in Arlington. For a guy who plays the numbers as much as Buck, this is an extremely puzzling decision.

      I second guessed wasting Tillman last night, was pretty much on the money with that one, hopefully I'm wrong about this.
      Yeah, Tillman should have waited, though I can understand he would have plus rest. Like I said, it's a one-off game, so Buck can afford to use the bullpen as early as he wants to.

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      • Price
        Lets Tessellate
        • Oct 2012
        • 1269

        At least the O's have a solid bullpen if help is needed. I think Joe will go 4 innings and give up a few runs.

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        • wingsfan77
          Junior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 3000

          Originally posted by Matt
          They woulda played a 1 game playoff anyway
          Oh, for some reason I thought that they had the first wild card spot.

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          • BazookaJoe5
            Formerly ravensownall17
            • Feb 2009
            • 1490

            Never been so happy to be wrong. I guess that is why Buck turned a perennial loser into a playoff team and I've just been sitting around bitching the past 15 years. Have to like how they are set up now.

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            • BazookaJoe5
              Formerly ravensownall17
              • Feb 2009
              • 1490

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              • Slateman
                Junior Member
                • Apr 2009
                • 2777

                Time to rock the Yankees
                The king was shaken. He went up to the room over the gateway and wept.
                As he went, he said: "O my son Absalom! My son, my son Absalom!
                If only I had died instead of you
                O Absalom, my son, my son!"

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                • NAHSTE
                  Probably owns the site
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 22233

                  Originally posted by NAHSTE
                  Gentlemen ...



                  I AM SO. DAMN. PROUD.
                  Once more, lads. Congratulations, enjoy your two home games. Camden gonna rocking.

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                  • ThomasTomasz
                    • Nov 2024

                    Weird to see Buck actually break his famous stare at the end of the game.

                    Also, did we really end Josh Hamilton's career with the Rangers on a strikeout by Brian Matusz? Tell me anyone would've thought of that one, either.

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                    • ThomasTomasz
                      • Nov 2024

                      Were they serious? That is utterly embarrassing.

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                      • EmpireWF
                        Giants in the Super Bowl
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 24082



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                        • Villain
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                          • May 2011
                          • 7768

                          I want to give Buck a
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                          • BazookaJoe5
                            Formerly ravensownall17
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 1490

                            So what do we need for next year?

                            I think the pitching is set, Bundy will be here permanently next year, and with Hammel, Gonzalez, Chen, Tillman, perhaps Saunders, etc, they aren't lacking quality SP candidates. The bullpen should continue to be strong.

                            Do they try to move Hardy and shift Machado over to SS? If they do that, who takes over at 3B?

                            I like a Mclouth, Jones, Markakis outfield. I really, really hope they keep Mclouth, that guy is the kind of player you want on your team.

                            Davis at DH, Wieters catching are givens.

                            Will they keep Reynolds?

                            What will they do at 2B, do they go into another year hoping that Roberts can stay healthy, or do they finally end the Roberts era at 2B? Andino and Flaherty played well, but obviously can not be looked at as the "everyday" 2B going into next year.

                            I'm not real impressed with the free agent market, based on lists I've looked at. Guessing the best chances to improve will come from within the organization, but not sure what kind of potential impact position players are left in the minors.

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                            • ThomasTomasz
                              • Nov 2024

                              Originally posted by BazookaJoe5
                              So what do we need for next year?

                              I think the pitching is set, Bundy will be here permanently next year, and with Hammel, Gonzalez, Chen, Tillman, perhaps Saunders, etc, they aren't lacking quality SP candidates. The bullpen should continue to be strong.

                              Do they try to move Hardy and shift Machado over to SS? If they do that, who takes over at 3B?

                              I like a Mclouth, Jones, Markakis outfield. I really, really hope they keep Mclouth, that guy is the kind of player you want on your team.

                              Davis at DH, Wieters catching are givens.

                              Will they keep Reynolds?

                              What will they do at 2B, do they go into another year hoping that Roberts can stay healthy, or do they finally end the Roberts era at 2B? Andino and Flaherty played well, but obviously can not be looked at as the "everyday" 2B going into next year.

                              I'm not real impressed with the free agent market, based on lists I've looked at. Guessing the best chances to improve will come from within the organization, but not sure what kind of potential impact position players are left in the minors.
                              I don't think Bundy should be here to start the season. Let him continue to progress through the minors as a starter, especially if guys like O'Day and Ayala will be coming back. No need to have him as a reliever.

                              I would sign Saunders to a three year extension. The Orioles need an ace, but with the depth they have with Saunders there, having an ace isn't the worst thing. I think Greinke would get lit up coming to Baltimore, and the Orioles still don't have the pieces to pull off a trade for a pitcher. An interesting thought would be Tim Lincecum if they felt they could take a risk, but I'm not sure I would do it.

                              Keeping McLouth is a must. Guy has some talent and seemed like he was putting it together. We don't make it to Game 5 without him. An outfield with him, Jones and Markakis is one of the best in the league overall.

                              Second base has to be decided. Flaherty and Andino are good bench guys, but should not be starting. Second is also one of the hardest positions to fill, and I will be trying to follow Schoop in the Arizona Fall League to see how he progresses. It might have to be a hole for another season to be honest.

                              I would keep Reynolds as well. Moving him from first to third was a good move. Reynolds has a sure glove, but has below-average range at third. Moving him to first was the best decision they could do. I doubt we get more than the return we gave to the Diamondbacks, and I'm not liking the other options in the FA market as far as cost goes.

                              Rounding out the infield, I think Hardy has more value than his performance this season, and I'd hope for a rebound with him and keep Machado at third for another season.

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                              • Leftwich
                                Bring on the Season

                                • Oct 2008
                                • 13700

                                Originally posted by BazookaJoe5
                                So what do we need for next year?

                                I think the pitching is set, Bundy will be here permanently next year, and with Hammel, Gonzalez, Chen, Tillman, perhaps Saunders, etc, they aren't lacking quality SP candidates. The bullpen should continue to be strong.

                                Do they try to move Hardy and shift Machado over to SS? If they do that, who takes over at 3B?

                                I like a Mclouth, Jones, Markakis outfield. I really, really hope they keep Mclouth, that guy is the kind of player you want on your team.

                                Davis at DH, Wieters catching are givens.

                                Will they keep Reynolds?

                                What will they do at 2B, do they go into another year hoping that Roberts can stay healthy, or do they finally end the Roberts era at 2B? Andino and Flaherty played well, but obviously can not be looked at as the "everyday" 2B going into next year.

                                I'm not real impressed with the free agent market, based on lists I've looked at. Guessing the best chances to improve will come from within the organization, but not sure what kind of potential impact position players are left in the minors.
                                We need to go after a starter, i agree with thomas about letting Bundy stay down in the minors for a little while longer to really make sure he's ready. Also included in this i think that Kevin Gausman will speed through the minors. I'm not sure if we'll see him next year but i think he'll only spend next year in the minors.

                                I think we trade Hardy and try to get a nice return for him. His bat was down this past year but his defense was insane. I'm not sure what we could get in return for him, maybe a few prospects to build up the farm system.

                                I would really enjoy seeing Nate the Great back next year. Brought a good bat and played stellar defense. I think we can get him cheap too.

                                I'd like to see play some time at first next year. He really brought a great bat this season and i think he'll only get better. As of right now he is my favorite Oriole. Wieters is a no brainer at Catcher too.

                                I am neither for or against keeping Reynolds. Don't really care either way. He does have a great glove at first though.

                                I think we really need to do something about second. Roberts can't stay healthy. Jonathan Schoop will get a look in spring training. Although Schoop's bat was terrible last year but he does play good defense. Not sure if he'd be an upgrade over Andino or Flaherty for the 2013 season. So really i think we should definately look elsewhere via trade because the free agent class sucks.

                                Originally posted by Tailback U
                                It won't say shit, because dying is for pussies.

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