BREAKING : Fielder to Detroit Almost Done Deal

[NAHSTE]

So did Yunieksy Betancourt.

And so did this guy:



Fielding percentage doesn't factor in plays like this. Hence, fielding percentage is kind of useless.

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

That's a lot of money over a lot of years.

That'll be the worst deal in baseball for the back end four years of the deal, for sure.

For the short term though, helluva player. I just imagine after 32, he's going to hit a wall and the last couple years of that deal will be rough on the budget for Detroit.

[Warner2BruceTD]

A lot of people ragged on peralta last year yet he was perfectly fine. He had one of the best fielding % for a SS last year. Inge is so fucking overrated though. For every great play he makes, there another mental error that ends up fucking us at another point. He takes too many risks and not capable of pulling them off like he used too.

Let's look at the entire picture. I know nothing of Peralta defensively, so I can be objective.

Peralta fielding %: .988
AL SS fielding %: .972

Last year at least, he caught was was hit to him. For his career, he's much closer to the league average of .971 (.977). He either had a good year with the glove, or just benefited from the scoring more than usual.

Peralta RF/9, RF/G: 4.34, 4.14
AL SS RF/9, RF/G: 4.36, 4.33

According to these numbers, he had below average range, and has had below average range for the last two seasons, which may indicate that he is regressing as he creeps up to 30 and loses athleticism. This is a number that likely will keep moving backwards.

Looks like a guy with declining range, who had a career year in terms of errors, which is a shaky stat to begin with. His low DP total (83) is telling on the surface (most good SS's are in the 100+ range), but then again I don't know much about the Tiger pitching staff (ground ball rates, etc).

I don't watch Peralta enough to throw in an eye test, but on the surface these numbers look to me like a guy who is below average defensively. In fact, I don't even see a need to dig deeper, because I see nothing that indicates he's any good, really.

[Warner2BruceTD]

That's a lot of money over a lot of years.

That'll be the worst deal in baseball for the back end four years of the deal, for sure.

For the short term though, helluva player. I just imagine after 32, he's going to hit a wall and the last couple years of that deal will be rough on the budget for Detroit.

He's younger than Pujols, plus we know his age is real, and it's for one less season and less money.

I think the Pujols contract will be worse at the end.

With that said, i'm pumped if i'm a fan of either team, win now, worry later.

[NAHSTE]

That'll be the worst deal in baseball for the back end four years of the deal, for sure.

Only the last three, because Ryan Howard is still signed through 2017.

[Slateman]

Martinez is gone when he gets back. Unless he agrees to some wacky part time alignment.

Really?

Fielder at first, Cabrera at third, Martinez DH

Defensively, it would be rough. But the Tigers have enough depth sub out someone for Fielder or Cabrera as needed.

[Sharkweather]

Really?

Fielder at first, Cabrera at third, Martinez DH

Defensively, it would be rough. But the Tigers have enough depth sub out someone for Fielder or Cabrera as needed.

[Warner2BruceTD]

Really?

Fielder at first, Cabrera at third, Martinez DH

Defensively, it would be rough. But the Tigers have enough depth sub out someone for Fielder or Cabrera as needed.

Cabrera was a below average 3B when he wasn't fat and was in his early 20's. Now he's fat and about to turn 30.

I don't even think they can try that.

[Goober]

I do look forward to Cabrera breaking Ryan Braun's record for the worst single season UZR at 3B in MLB history.

[NAHSTE]

I don't even think they can try that.

Sounds like that's what they are planning on doing. But it's cool they can just substitute whenever they want for either of the guys they are paying $20MM per season, just like Slateman suggested!

[Goober]

Tigers signed Victor as a Free Agent, so it's not like moving him would be a waste after he's healed up. Sox gave up Masterson for basically a year of his services before he signed with Detroit in the offseason. Basically what I'm saying is, if Miggy to 3rd doesn't work out, then moving Martinez shouldn't be hard to do and net a decent return. I think Damon is the best DH still available, the market was pretty poor for them after the Sox picked up Ortiz's option.

Yeah but Martinez will be three years older then, coming off a significant injury and can no longer play catcher. Significantly less valuable.

[nesper]

like this contract is gonna happer what illitch does. money has never been an issue with him. never. just like 2 years ago when buster olney said the tigers could not afford to keep miggy and that they were going to trade him to ny or boston. the contract might be bad at the backend but it will not stop illitch from spending if it means a legit shot at winning it all. thats how he has done it with the red wings up until the cap and the wings rake cash for him.

[sraczk2011]

Fuck baseball, fuck the blue jays and fuck rogers you stupid useless rich assholes.

I'm sure by July I'll be hearing "well we have a lot of young talent coming up" or "our record is really good if you compare it to other teams in the league, if we just weren't in the same division as the yankee's and red sox"...

Fuck this shit :imad:

Fuck Rogers and the Blue Jays.

But... Brandon Morrow! Omar Vizquel! Darren Oliver?

[shag773]

Only the last three, because Ryan Howard is still signed through 2017.

Actually through 2016, 2017 is a club option. Phillies can afford it.

[NAHSTE]

Actually through 2016, 2017 is a club option. Phillies can afford it.

I was banking on them overvaluing RBIs like they did the first time the deal was negotiated and picking up the option.