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  • NAHSTE
    Probably owns the site
    • Feb 2009
    • 22233

    2012 Regression Candidates

    Hitters:

    - Starlin Castro will have a subpar season. High contact, average dependent hitter. Will also continue to get worse at SS.

    - Matt Kemp's power will go back to normal. 27-32 bombs for him, not 40, and definitely not 50.

    - Emilio Bonifacio. Why? Because, Emilio Bonifacio.

    - Michael Morse. Obvious BABIP outlier is obvious.


    Pitchers

    - Fister and the three fatties will be a bad situation in Detroit. His ERA could double.



    ***warning: :dtrain: baiting to Reds fans below***

    - Tat Latos will give up a ton of home runs. He will remain a good pitcher, but he'll be high strikeout, high flyball guy which could lead to problems with that river wind in Cincy. Let's face it, he's a rich man's Anibal Sanchez at this point.
  • Rudi
    #CyCueto
    • Nov 2008
    • 9905

    #2
    Kyle Lohse.

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    • Primetime
      Thank You Prince
      • Nov 2008
      • 17526

      #3
      Ryan Braun
      Randy Wolf

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      • nwfisch
        No longer a noob
        • Jul 2011
        • 1365

        #4
        How can Castro get worse at SS?

        He led the majors in errors last year, hard to get worse than that.

        He led the NL in hits last year, so 2nd place could be classified as regression?

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        • Primetime
          Thank You Prince
          • Nov 2008
          • 17526

          #5
          Originally posted by nwfisch
          How can Castro get worse at SS?

          He led the majors in errors last year, hard to get worse than that.

          He led the NL in hits last year, so 2nd place could be classified as regression?
          What about sub-par do you not understand?

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          • nwfisch
            No longer a noob
            • Jul 2011
            • 1365

            #6
            Originally posted by Primetime232
            What about sub-par do you not understand?
            So his first full season in the major leagues, leads the NL in hits, and that's par?

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            • Primetime
              Thank You Prince
              • Nov 2008
              • 17526

              #7
              Originally posted by nwfisch
              So his first full season in the major leagues, leads the NL in hits, and that's par?

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              • nwfisch
                No longer a noob
                • Jul 2011
                • 1365

                #8
                Originally posted by Primetime232
                Instead of facepalm gifs, you could explain how you believe Castro is going to regress.


                Where do you see him at stats wise? I see 300 average, 20 HRs, 15 SBs, 200 hits. I wouldn't call that regression.

                I don't believe he can get worse defensively, as he lead the league in errors last year.

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                • Slateman
                  Junior Member
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 2777

                  #9
                  I think Morse will regress. I think it will have more to do with opposing pitchers having a healthy respect for him. His power will still be there. His BABIP has always been high

                  Pujols. Mainly because of the contract.

                  Verlander - Mainly because the numbers he put up last year were so freaking amazing. I think he'll be right around his career average instead of like last year
                  The king was shaken. He went up to the room over the gateway and wept.
                  As he went, he said: "O my son Absalom! My son, my son Absalom!
                  If only I had died instead of you
                  O Absalom, my son, my son!"

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                  • FedEx227
                    Delivers
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 10454

                    #10
                    Slate, still not getting what BABIP means and still not understanding sample sizes.
                    VoicesofWrestling.com

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                    • FedEx227
                      Delivers
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 10454

                      #11
                      Basically, here is it.

                      Mike Morse in his first year of getting more than 300 plate apperances had a BABIP well beyond the league average. Unless his offense centers around beating out infield grounders, his BABIP will regress towards the mean like every other player ever.

                      Just because 2010 in nearly 300 PA his BABIP was high has NO bearing on his BABIP number last year. His number is simply unsustainable barring him becoming Ichiro or in his prime Chone Figgins.
                      VoicesofWrestling.com

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                      • Primetime
                        Thank You Prince
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 17526

                        #12
                        Originally posted by nwfisch
                        Instead of facepalm gifs, you could explain how you believe Castro is going to regress.


                        Where do you see him at stats wise? I see 300 average, 20 HRs, 15 SBs, 200 hits. I wouldn't call that regression.

                        I don't believe he can get worse defensively, as he lead the league in errors last year.
                        - Starlin Castro will have a subpar season. High contact, average dependent hitter. Will also continue to get worse at SS.

                        - Nahste

                        Learn to read. I didn't say anything about predicting he will regress. Clearly Nahste doesn't feel he will be nearly as productive as he was last season. Some might even call it a SUBPAR season.

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                        • nwfisch
                          No longer a noob
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 1365

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Primetime232
                          - Starlin Castro will have a subpar season. High contact, average dependent hitter. Will also continue to get worse at SS.

                          - Nahste

                          Learn to read. I didn't say anything about predicting he will regress. Clearly Nahste doesn't feel he will be nearly as productive as he was last season. Some might even call it a SUBPAR season.

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                          • FedEx227
                            Delivers
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 10454

                            #14
                            Didn't you just call Primetime out for using a facepalmn and not defending your point?
                            VoicesofWrestling.com

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                            • Goober
                              Needs a hobby
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 12271

                              #15
                              Starlin Castro has always had a pretty high BABIP, and has the type of game where you'd expect that. Unlike Morse, lol. Still there's not that much data to go off of given his young age.

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