Bryce Harper, conservative hero

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  • Goober
    Needs a hobby
    • Feb 2009
    • 12271

    #16
    Originally posted by Slateman
    1. His UZR has nothing to do with what he dives for or not.
    2. UZR needs three years of data to be useful for anything.
    Your understanding of UZR seems to be as bad as your thoughts on BABIP. Small sample size yes, but it shows he has been absolutely brutal with his glove.

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    • Slateman
      Junior Member
      • Apr 2009
      • 2777

      #17
      Originally posted by Villain
      1. You're a Nats fan, we get it.
      2. You don't need to defend Harper at every turn.
      1. You need reminders
      2. I'm not. He's been awful with the glove. Or rather, wildly inconsistent. Probably because he hasn't played outfield very much. But using UZR to point this out is extremely flawed seeing as how the creators of UZR have said, numerous times, that it takes three years of data to really use it to determine anything.
      The king was shaken. He went up to the room over the gateway and wept.
      As he went, he said: "O my son Absalom! My son, my son Absalom!
      If only I had died instead of you
      O Absalom, my son, my son!"

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      • SuperKevin
        War Hero
        • Dec 2009
        • 8759

        #18
        Harper is painful to watch in the OF right now because he has no idea how to read the ball off the bat. It seems he starts off in the wrong direction or hesitates way too long on nearly every ball hit to him. He'll learn that with time though.

        It's another reason why, despite being a huge Harper fan, I feel Mike Trout>>>>>>>Bryce Harper

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        • Slateman
          Junior Member
          • Apr 2009
          • 2777

          #19
          Originally posted by SuperKevin
          Harper is painful to watch in the OF right now because he has no idea how to read the ball off the bat. It seems he starts off in the wrong direction or hesitates way too long on nearly every ball hit to him. He'll learn that with time though.

          It's another reason why, despite being a huge Harper fan, I feel Mike Trout>>>>>>>Bryce Harper
          This year. Actually, when they put Morse in RF, every fly ball seems to be an adventure :D
          The king was shaken. He went up to the room over the gateway and wept.
          As he went, he said: "O my son Absalom! My son, my son Absalom!
          If only I had died instead of you
          O Absalom, my son, my son!"

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          • Youk
            Posts too much
            • Feb 2009
            • 7998

            #20
            I was watching the Nationals and Yankees play yesterday, and I had this overwhelming desire to turn on Fox News.



            What a joke that is. I know dumbass columnists and analysts like to try to throw in political puns with the Nationals all the time, but this is just over the top.

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            • Goober
              Needs a hobby
              • Feb 2009
              • 12271

              #21
              Originally posted by Slateman
              1. You need reminders
              2. I'm not. He's been awful with the glove. Or rather, wildly inconsistent. Probably because he hasn't played outfield very much. But using UZR to point this out is extremely flawed seeing as how the creators of UZR have said, numerous times, that it takes three years of data to really use it to determine anything.
              Is two months of data enough to be able to predict Harper's defensive performance for the rest of his career? Probably not. But it still says he has been terrible so far, and jumping to conclusions is fun.

              It's kind of like when Slateman first started posting in the MLB section, everyone laughed and jumped to the conclusion that he didn't know shit. Maybe Harper will improve and be a great outfielder, but he could also pull a Slateman and continue to be terrible.

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              • Goober
                Needs a hobby
                • Feb 2009
                • 12271

                #22
                Originally posted by Slateman
                This year. Actually, when they put Morse in RF, every fly ball seems to be an adventure :D
                No, Trout is just better.

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                • SuperKevin
                  War Hero
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 8759

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Slateman
                  This year. Actually, when they put Morse in RF, every fly ball seems to be an adventure :D
                  That one Granderson hit to him in the 4th inning was scary. If he isn't so huge that ball is over his head for an easy triple. Mike Morse's arm is overcooked spaghetti at this point too.

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                  • Slateman
                    Junior Member
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 2777

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Goobyslayer
                    No, Trout is just better.
                    Now who's jumping to conclusions?
                    The king was shaken. He went up to the room over the gateway and wept.
                    As he went, he said: "O my son Absalom! My son, my son Absalom!
                    If only I had died instead of you
                    O Absalom, my son, my son!"

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                    • SuperKevin
                      War Hero
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 8759

                      #25
                      I feel Trout has just more than likely had MUCH better coaching throughout his life. Bryce Harper looks like he's never been taught anything about baserunning or defense. Give him a year and Harper will have the gap closed

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                      • Goober
                        Needs a hobby
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 12271

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Slateman
                        Now who's jumping to conclusions?
                        Did I not just say jumping to conclusions is fun? But :srs: Trout is better.

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                        • Slateman
                          Junior Member
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 2777

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Goobyslayer
                          Did I not just say jumping to conclusions is fun? But :srs: Trout is better.
                          .288/.380/.542
                          .220/.281/.390

                          First 135 plate appearances at the age of 19 .... Just sayin
                          The king was shaken. He went up to the room over the gateway and wept.
                          As he went, he said: "O my son Absalom! My son, my son Absalom!
                          If only I had died instead of you
                          O Absalom, my son, my son!"

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                          • SuperKevin
                            War Hero
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 8759

                            #28

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                            • SuperKevin
                              War Hero
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 8759

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Slateman
                              .288/.380/.542
                              .220/.281/.390

                              First 135 plate appearances at the age of 19 .... Just sayin
                              Yeah but you have to account that a year prior, Mike Trout was facing HS pitchers while Bryce Harper had been facing college kids with a wood bat. At the plate Harper has been much more prepared to transition at 19 years old. It's the rest of his game that is needing work

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                              • NAHSTE
                                Probably owns the site
                                • Feb 2009
                                • 22233

                                #30
                                No matter Harper's defensive ability, Heyward is one of, if not the, best defensive RF in baseball according to both numbers and humans, so it was a painfully dumb parallel to draw.

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