MLB Random Thoughts - Week 12 [6/18 - 6/24]

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  • Glenbino
    Jelly and Ice Cream
    • Nov 2009
    • 4994

    #46


    Rays 1979 "throwback" uniform.

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    • Villain
      [REDACTED]
      • May 2011
      • 7768

      #47
      Originally posted by Slateman
      2. It provides grip, which leads to being able to put more torque on the ball. Which leads to better breaking balls. It's the same principal as why they don't let balls with scuffs stay in play.
      Except that's not proven to work.
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      • MVPete
        Old School
        • Mar 2008
        • 17500

        #48
        This was awesome lol.

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        • RyanLeaf16
          #DoSomething
          • Feb 2009
          • 3211

          #49
          Originally posted by Slateman
          1. If you want a better grip, use the rosin bag
          2. It provides grip, which leads to being able to put more torque on the ball. Which leads to better breaking balls. It's the same principal as why they don't let balls with scuffs stay in play.
          3. It was kind of dumb for Peralta to try it on a team he used to play with that knew he was doing it.
          4. Maddon had himself a lovely little whining session with the press afterwards

          As for Archer, he pitched well. He deserved the win. If his catcher and third baseman could catch the ball, he'd probably have won.
          I completely disagree.

          1) There are a number of pitchers who don't like the rosin or feel that it provides adequate grip. Further, if adding better grip to hold the ball provided a competitive advantage, why is rosin even allowed on the mound?

          2) It wasn't dumb. As many former players and current players have said - this is common practice and it provides no competitive advantage whatsoever.

          It is an antiquated rule (regarding prohibiting pine tar as a foreign substance - I am not referring to other substances that effect the flight of the ball) that simply has been paid no attention to and therefore is still technically illegal. As a matter of fact, many people are talking about what effect it really had for Johnson to even pursue the issue. The Rays ended up getting out of the inning. Peralta's former teammaters were over hugging/talking with him prior to the game last night and per Rays sources, were apologizing for the incident all together and Johnson himself came out and said a suspension is a bit extreme for punishment. He even feels that an ejection is enough as the infraction is not all that serious. So even he appears to be back tracking on the issue as well.
          Maddon & Friedman: Pissing off the AL East since 2008

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          • Warner2BruceTD
            2011 Poster Of The Year
            • Mar 2009
            • 26142

            #50
            Originally posted by RyanLeaf16
            I completely disagree.

            1) There are a number of pitchers who don't like the rosin or feel that it provides adequate grip. Further, if adding better grip to hold the ball provided a competitive advantage, why is rosin even allowed on the mound?

            2) It wasn't dumb. As many former players and current players have said - this is common practice and it provides no competitive advantage whatsoever.

            It is an antiquated rule (regarding prohibiting pine tar as a foreign substance - I am not referring to other substances that effect the flight of the ball) that simply has been paid no attention to and therefore is still technically illegal. As a matter of fact, many people are talking about what effect it really had for Johnson to even pursue the issue. The Rays ended up getting out of the inning. Peralta's former teammaters were over hugging/talking with him prior to the game last night and per Rays sources, were apologizing for the incident all together and Johnson himself came out and said a suspension is a bit extreme for punishment. He even feels that an ejection is enough as the infraction is not all that serious. So even he appears to be back tracking on the issue as well.
            How about we just stick to not allowing any foreign substance on the ball, so we don't have to argue about whether these substances have any effect on movement?

            To me movement isn't the only issue anyway. If it provides a better grip, it shouldn't be allowed.

            I think questioning Johnson's motives is fair, that was kind of a dick move, but I can't support the pitcher if he was using any sort of substance, regardless of the reason.

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            • MVPete
              Old School
              • Mar 2008
              • 17500

              #51
              Chris Perez chimed in on it on Bowden's radio show.

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              • RyanLeaf16
                #DoSomething
                • Feb 2009
                • 3211

                #52
                Originally posted by MVPete
                Chris Perez chimed in on it on Bowden's radio show.

                http://siriusxmsports.posterous.com/...ned-jim-bowden
                Thanks for sharing. He said the same thing everyone else has been saying, it offers no competitive advantage in regards to your pitches. Per Perez, you could likely find 1-2 guys on each team, each night with pine tar on their glove if you did an unannounced random search. It's prevalent and it's really not a big deal.
                Maddon & Friedman: Pissing off the AL East since 2008

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                • Slateman
                  Junior Member
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 2777

                  #53
                  Nationals hustling all over the diamond and getting runs because of it.
                  The king was shaken. He went up to the room over the gateway and wept.
                  As he went, he said: "O my son Absalom! My son, my son Absalom!
                  If only I had died instead of you
                  O Absalom, my son, my son!"

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                  • Rudi
                    #CyCueto
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 9905

                    #54
                    James McDonald is pretty damn good.

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                    • Rudi
                      #CyCueto
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 9905

                      #55

                      Bryce Harper's famous phrase, "That's a clown question, bro," soon will be available on T-shirts, according to a report.

                      The Washington Nationals' young phenom told Comcast SportsNet on Thursday that Under Armour will begin selling T-shirts with his now often repeated catchphrase.

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                      • Slateman
                        Junior Member
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 2777

                        #56
                        The king was shaken. He went up to the room over the gateway and wept.
                        As he went, he said: "O my son Absalom! My son, my son Absalom!
                        If only I had died instead of you
                        O Absalom, my son, my son!"

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                        • NAHSTE
                          Probably owns the site
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 22233

                          #57
                          Welcome to Milwaukee!

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                          • EmpireWF
                            Giants in the Super Bowl
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 24082

                            #58
                            Ike Davis homer and the Mets lead 5-0 in the first.

                            Hell yeah


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                            • Woy
                              RIP West
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 16372

                              #59
                              Where has this been over the last month, CRADS?



                              ^ Shouts to MvP for the sick sig. GFX TEAM BACK

                              .

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                              • Glenbino
                                Jelly and Ice Cream
                                • Nov 2009
                                • 4994

                                #60
                                is going to win the AL MVP

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