Deal is done: Greinke to Angels, sources say

[Woy]

What does this have to do with the trade? What better package did the Brewers have on the table? I actually really liked this trade for MIL value wise. Scouts think Segura can hit .300 with 20+ SB's as his ceiling with average D at SS. He is just learning the pos. as well. Pena/Hellweg both are solid prospects and can be a #2/#3 SP if they can command the strike zone. Hellweg went 5 IP, 1 H, 0 ER, 6 K in his AA debut , and Pena pitched yesterday and went 7 IP, 1 ER, 6 K as well in his last start. Segura is hitting .445 in 28 AB's so far and 4 SB's.

With the new free agent comp. rules where teams only get 1 draft pick instead of 2 decreased the value quite a bit. We'll see how this turns out, but there was no way MIL could afford Greinke at 6/130+ which is what it could take to sign Greinke to an extension.

[Villain]

My problem with the trade is that they didn't get any blue chip prospect. They've given quite a few away in recent seasons with the Greinke and Marcum deals. That compensation pick would actually have been better for them, at least in my mind.

I don't think a "blue chip prospect" is a must for a 2-month rental. It's nice if you can get it, but how many people LOL at the SFG for giving up Zach Wheeler for Carlos Beltran?

It's not really fair to compare the trade Milwaukee made to get Greinke and the trade they made to let him go. Greinke had different value in terms of team control.

[FedEx227]

Likewise, most GMs are smart enough now to realize the value of a cost-controlled prospect vs. a rental player, no matter what short term value they give you.

[Goober]

I don't think a "blue chip prospect" is a must for a 2-month rental. It's nice if you can get it, but how many people LOL at the SFG for giving up Zach Wheeler for Carlos Beltran?

It's not really fair to compare the trade Milwaukee made to get Greinke and the trade they made to let him go. Greinke had different value in terms of team control.

I agree that it's unrealistic for Doug Melvin to find a trade partner eqaully inept as Doug Melvin himself.

Obviously the Brewers got some really risky prospects here, but they're highly regarded enough to think it will work out for them. If Segura and Hellweg, aren't that far behind where Escobar and Odorizzi were ranked in 2010.

[NAHSTE]

Jean Segura as a Brewer:

16 G, 58 PA, 11 H, 0 2B, 1 3B, 0 HR, 3 BB, 8 SO, .204/.241/.241 with an OPS+ of 30.

[Warner2BruceTD]

Jean Segura as a Brewer:

16 G, 58 PA, 11 H, 0 2B, 1 3B, 0 HR, 3 BB, 8 SO, .204/.241/.241 with an OPS+ of 30.

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[Warner2BruceTD]

West is on the case

[Guest]

Jean Segura as a Brewer:

16 G, 58 PA, 11 H, 0 2B, 1 3B, 0 HR, 3 BB, 8 SO, .204/.241/.241 with an OPS+ of 30.

But Greinke is still coming back to the Brewers this off-season, so anything they got in the trade is extra

[Villain]

Jean Segura as a Brewer:

16 G, 58 PA, 11 H, 0 2B, 1 3B, 0 HR, 3 BB, 8 SO, .204/.241/.241 with an OPS+ of 30.

Zach Greinke as an Angel:

6 G, 39.2 IP, 5.22 ERA, 2.2 K/BB, 73 ERA+

:greinke:

[Glenbino]

Awful return for Milwaukee, but if Olt and Teheran weren't touchable I guess this is the best hey could do. Count me in the camp that thinks Segura will never be a star. He's destined for 2nd division regular status due to his fringey glove at SS, IMO.

Anyway, will be interesting to see if the Angels offer Greinke an extension. It's almost overkill to have that many good starters come playoff time.

[NAHSTE]

Count me in the camp that thinks Segura will never be a star. He's destined for 2nd division regular status due to his fringey glove at SS, IMO.

Now that the honeymoon is over, we're a week into his first full season and Gob is already bitching about Segura's range.