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  • Tailback U
    No substitute 4 strength.
    • Nov 2008
    • 10282

    #31
    I think the MLB has to re-evaluate their stance on certain crimes against the public and crimes against baseball like the NFL recently started to do but driving drunk really doesn't affect the MLB as much as it does the player himself.

    Anybody in their right mind knows not to blame the MLB when a player gets a DUI but to blame the player.

    And why are you holding a baseball player to the same standards as someone like yourself? Obviously, certain occupations are not going to accept someone with a DUI. A baseball player or a bank teller or a McDonalds employee are not held to the same ethical standard as other occupations and for obvious reasons.

    Use common sense. It's simply not logical to throw every person that gets a DUI in jail, fire them from their job, or make them forfeit their car.

    That all said, I think the MLB should institute some sort of punishment for DUI if it can deter players in any way from driving drunk.

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    • Villain
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      • May 2011
      • 7768

      #32
      Originally posted by Tailback U
      I think the MLB has to re-evaluate their stance on certain crimes against the public and crimes against baseball like the NFL recently started to do but driving drunk really doesn't affect the MLB as much as it does the player himself.

      Anybody in their right mind knows not to blame the MLB when a player gets a DUI but to blame the player.
      People blame the NFL all the time for the knucklehead shit that players do.

      And why are you holding a baseball player to the same standards as someone like yourself? Obviously, certain occupations are not going to accept someone with a DUI. A baseball player or a bank teller or a McDonalds employee are not held to the same ethical standard as other occupations and for obvious reasons.
      Because that's what a free country does... Everyone is treated fairly under the law.



      Use common sense. It's simply not logical to throw every person that gets a DUI in jail, fire them from their job, or make them forfeit their car.
      Funny, I don't remember saying that or advocating for it.

      That all said, I think the MLB should institute some sort of punishment for DUI if it can deter players in any way from driving drunk.
      Uh.... yeah. If he had an ounce of cocaine in his car, he gets a 60 game suspension. He gets a DUI and zero game suspension. Last time I checked, both of those things are illegal. No, you're right. I'm not using common sense and I'm holding him more accountable than everyone else.
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      • Tailback U
        No substitute 4 strength.
        • Nov 2008
        • 10282

        #33
        Originally posted by Villain
        People blame the NFL all the time for the knucklehead shit that players do.
        They do? I don't remember seeing anyone sue Roger Gooddell for Pacman Jones' actions. Donte Stallworth and Leonard Little killed people while driving drunk and they were still allowed to play in the NFL.

        Because that's what a free country does... Everyone is treated fairly under the law.
        Wait...Are you talking about the law or are you talking about the MLB? Because the law is punishing him just like everyone else. For some reason you want the MLB to punish him unlike other employers.

        Uh.... yeah. If he had an ounce of cocaine in his car, he gets a 60 game suspension. He gets a DUI and zero game suspension. Last time I checked, both of those things are illegal. No, you're right. I'm not using common sense and I'm holding him more accountable than everyone else.
        An ounce of cocaine is a felony. Comparing an ounce of cocaine to a DUI is stupid.

        Like I said, use common sense. Just because two things are illegal doesn't mean the crime and punishment should be the same. Don't compare a misdemeanor to a felony and don't compare performance enhancing drugs in sports to crimes that are not related to sports whatsoever.

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        • Villain
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          • May 2011
          • 7768

          #34
          Originally posted by Tailback U
          Like I said, use common sense. Just because two things are illegal doesn't mean the crime and punishment should be the same. Don't compare a misdemeanor to a felony and don't compare performance enhancing drugs in sports to crimes that are not related to sports whatsoever.
          My common sense tells me that a DUI is worse than PEDs or Marijuana. I think MLB needs to reevaluate its priorities if it's going to be suspending players for substance abuse.
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          • Tailback U
            No substitute 4 strength.
            • Nov 2008
            • 10282

            #35
            Originally posted by Villain
            My common sense tells me that a DUI is worse than PEDs or Marijuana. I think MLB needs to reevaluate its priorities if it's going to be suspending players for substance abuse.
            The punishment for DUI and marijuana are stiffer than DUI in the MLB's regard because they were becoming an epidemic and affecting baseball. Also factor in that the justice system rarely ever catches or punishes people for taking steroids or smoking marijuana and you have the MLB's reasoning.

            When the justice system stops punishing people for driving drunk and it becomes an MLB epidemic you will see the MLB suspend drunk drivers for 100 games.

            For the record, I don't think sports should punish for marijuana or adderall but they aren't going to go back on it.

            Like I said, I do think the MLB should institute a punishment for DUI but not more than 50 games. I agree that the MLB and the NFL should reevaluate their stance on substance abuse punishments but they're not going to lessen any of them. I think DUI will be punished by the MLB within the next 5 years...probably even sooner.

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            • Primetime
              Thank You Prince
              • Nov 2008
              • 17526

              #36
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              • Sven Draconian
                Not a Scandanavian
                • Feb 2009
                • 1319

                #37
                Originally posted by Villain
                My common sense tells me that a DUI is worse than PEDs or Marijuana. I think MLB needs to reevaluate its priorities if it's going to be suspending players for substance abuse.
                There are lots of things that are worse than PED abuse, which is essentially a victim less crime. Beating your wife and kids, embezzling from a charity, murder and many other things are all worse. None of that is/should be punished by the MLB.

                Guess what, they don't occur on the baseball field. The results of PED use play out on the field. One falls under the obvious jurisdiction of the MLB, the other occurs within the jurisdiction of whatever law agency arrests the player.

                Professional sports are not a law enforcement agency and should not act like one. Punish what occurs on the field, leave everything else to the law.

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                • Primetime
                  Thank You Prince
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 17526

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Sven Draconian
                  There are lots of things that are worse than PED abuse, which is essentially a victim less crime. Beating your wife and kids, embezzling from a charity, murder and many other things are all worse. None of that is/should be punished by the MLB.

                  Guess what, they don't occur on the baseball field. The results of PED use play out on the field. One falls under the obvious jurisdiction of the MLB, the other occurs within the jurisdiction of whatever law agency arrests the player.

                  Professional sports are not a law enforcement agency and should not act like one. Punish what occurs on the field, leave everything else to the law.
                  How exactly does marijuana effect what occurs on the field? Or are you saying get rid of that punishment by the MLB too?

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                  • SuperKevin
                    War Hero
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 8759

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Primetime
                    How exactly does marijuana effect what occurs on the field? Or are you saying get rid of that punishment by the MLB too?
                    Well in regards to that, they failed a MLB sponsored drug test. MLB doesn't pull over these guys for DUI.

                    Istill think players should be suspended for DUI for morality and public image reasons though

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                    • Villain
                      [REDACTED]
                      • May 2011
                      • 7768

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Sven Draconian
                      There are lots of things that are worse than PED abuse, which is essentially a victim less crime. Beating your wife and kids, embezzling from a charity, murder and many other things are all worse. None of that is/should be punished by the MLB.

                      Guess what, they don't occur on the baseball field. The results of PED use play out on the field. One falls under the obvious jurisdiction of the MLB, the other occurs within the jurisdiction of whatever law agency arrests the player.

                      Professional sports are not a law enforcement agency and should not act like one. Punish what occurs on the field, leave everything else to the law.
                      Then why does MLB suspend players for cocaine, marijuana, etc?

                      Originally posted by Villain
                      My common sense tells me that a DUI is worse than PEDs or Marijuana. I think MLB needs to reevaluate its priorities if it's going to be suspending players for substance abuse.
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                      • Slateman
                        Junior Member
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 2777

                        #41
                        Wait, who is blaming the NFL for what the players do off the field?
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                        • Sven Draconian
                          Not a Scandanavian
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 1319

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Primetime
                          How exactly does marijuana effect what occurs on the field? Or are you saying get rid of that punishment by the MLB too?
                          Yes. They should get rid of that punishment.

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                          • Tailback U
                            No substitute 4 strength.
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 10282

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Villain
                            Then why does MLB suspend players for cocaine, marijuana, etc?
                            Cocaine can be used as a PED.

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                            • Villain
                              [REDACTED]
                              • May 2011
                              • 7768

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Tailback U
                              Cocaine can be used as a PED.
                              Marijuana can't, but it'll get you a 50-game suspension.

                              Originally posted by Tailback U
                              The punishment for DUI and marijuana are stiffer than DUI in the MLB's regard because they were becoming an epidemic and affecting baseball. Also factor in that the justice system rarely ever catches or punishes people for taking steroids or smoking marijuana and you have the MLB's reasoning.

                              When the justice system stops punishing people for driving drunk and it becomes an MLB epidemic you will see the MLB suspend drunk drivers for 100 games.
                              Yes, so MLB needs to police potheads since law enforcement won't?



                              MLB has it's substance abuse suspension policies way out of wack. In my opinion, getting caught driving drunk is way worse than getting caught with a gram of weed in your bat bag. MLB gives zero reprimand for the DUI and makes you miss almost half of a season for weed. It's laughable that Gallardo didn't even miss a start.

                              I'll say it again, MLB needs to reevaluate its priorities if it's going to be suspending players for substance abuse.
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                              • Tailback U
                                No substitute 4 strength.
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 10282

                                #45
                                It can be argued that marijuana is a PED as well. It can relax players and take pressure off of them.

                                Either way I agree with you.

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