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  • FirstTimer
    Freeman Error

    • Feb 2009
    • 18729

    #61
    Originally posted by DET Clutch
    why woud Kinsler win an MVP if the Rangers were horrible?
    Andre Dawson did it in 1987 for he Cubs.

    Pujols>>Miggy.

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    • Whatupdoe44
      Magic
      • Nov 2008
      • 4954

      #62
      My opinion> your opinion

      Hanley for MVP


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      • Youk
        Posts too much
        • Feb 2009
        • 7998

        #63
        Carl Pavano > Miggy

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        • DJ Fog
          Posts a lot
          • Dec 2008
          • 3634

          #64
          Let's play out April before we start naming MVPs maybe?

          Nah, you guys are right.. 8-10 games will sum up the ENTIRE season.

          lol.
          www.soundcloud.com/djfog86

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          • FedEx227
            Delivers
            • Mar 2009
            • 10454

            #65
            Originally posted by DET Clutch
            why woud Kinsler win an MVP if the Rangers were horrible?
            Because he has great numbers? I don't know?

            It's not his fault his teams pitching staff sucks?
            VoicesofWrestling.com

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            • FedEx227
              Delivers
              • Mar 2009
              • 10454

              #66
              Don't discount how good Dustin's numbers were.

              He led the league in hits, runs and doubles.
              VoicesofWrestling.com

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              • Youk
                Posts too much
                • Feb 2009
                • 7998

                #67
                Originally posted by DET Clutch
                I know that, but the typical MVP in NBA, all those big sports are on good teams. Would Pedroia would have won it if Boston finished 4th? Of course not.
                And that is the way it should be in my mind. It is not the "Best Player" Award, though we see it as that. It's the Most Valuable Player, so the player needs to have a great season and help his team to have a great season and be a valuable asset.

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                • nesper
                  Junior Member
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 648

                  #68
                  Originally posted by MVPete
                  Buster Olney talking about the Tigers may hit a point that they put Cabrera out there, but only at 10% right now. But as always he says they start losing games, and losing ticket sales, that % increases. That can be said about just about anyone though.
                  I really really do not understand this thinking at all. First just because the city is struggling it does not mean the owner is. Take a look at what the NHL did. The NHL cut salaries by 20-30% and instituted a salary cap. Illitch who owns the red wings and the tigers had no problem spending like a drunken sailor on the wings. Now the NHL limits what he can spend, ticket prices are relatively the same and with another deep playoff run the wings will be making huge money for him.

                  Second if cabrera were to go on the market there would be no sense to keep anyone else because obviously your going to blow up the whole team if you are gonna get prospects for him. So if this were to occur it would make zero sense for him not to put verlander, ordonez, guillen, and polanco all on the block and move them at the same time. It makes no sense.

                  I hate to go here but it just seems like east coast bias trying to plug a perceived hole on the red sox since they seem to be the only team mentioned in this.

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                  • Youk
                    Posts too much
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 7998

                    #69
                    Originally posted by DET Clutch
                    Those articles are filled with a ton of ifs.

                    IF Detroit struggles early (they arent) they want to cut salary. They would cut the salarys of Guillen, Ordonez, Polanco, older players that would put a contender over the top.
                    Struggling early is struggling through the end of May. Unless you're the Nationals, no team should use April as a benchmark (Though I don't think that the Tigers will struggle to that extent) I do agree that they would try to dump out those players first. The only issue would be whether or not there would be a market. I think there would always be one for Ordonez, but its always dependent on what teams are in the running. For any team wanting to cut salary, the best situation is a close race in one or more divisions, where the teams would look to quickly add that last piece to make a run. If the races are not looking close that could close the market.

                    With getting fans in the ballpark, it is more with the economy than with the team. I can't comment on ticket prices (even stubhub, etc.) but you follow the Tigers so you probably know. I know last year with the Mets I was able to get SD/NYM tickets at Shea for $1 off of stubhub. If tickets are available for $5 or $10 and under, then attendance shouldn't be too much off. How has attendance been so far this year?

                    If they went crazy and wanted to start from scratch this season, why would they get rid of the 25 year stud? You keep him and get rid of the countless amount of older players that they have, people who are wanted by other teams.
                    If I'm the Tigers and I do go crazy and want to start from scratch for no reason, I wouldn't give up Miggy first. I would try to get right of the older players, but if I can get an completely uneven trade in my favor, then I do it. Not saying it will happen, but being 100% against trading him wouldn't be the best idea, just don't pull a bullshit Mets trade like Scott Kazmir for Victor Zambrano. That was fucked.

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                    • kyhadley
                      Carefree
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 6796

                      #70
                      I agree with Youk, I think the attendance has more to do with the economy than the strength of the team.

                      So far, Detroit is averaging 26,850 a game, 13,000 less than last year. And keep in mind that that is at the beginning of the year when attendance is usually at its highest. Now how that will affect the situation, I don't know.

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                      • nesper
                        Junior Member
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 648

                        #71
                        Originally posted by kyhadley
                        I agree with Youk, I think the attendance has more to do with the economy than the strength of the team.

                        So far, Detroit is averaging 26,850 a game, 13,000 less than last year. And keep in mind that that is at the beginning of the year when attendance is usually at its highest. Now how that will affect the situation, I don't know.
                        they did have a game on easter and it still early been kinda cold plus most if not all of the games have been 1pm starts. after the road trip the schedule does play out well for them. People who cant go to the wings have yankees, indians and twins. Indians fans seem to travel to detroit when they can. The home stand after that if the NHL playoffs still involve the wings will be a harder sell but the weather will be nice and people still may want to go downtown for the festivities.

                        not sure if the 1pm starts this early is new or old but there has been considerable complaints about it on the radio this year.

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                        • Miggy
                          The Situation
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 2874

                          #72
                          Peter Gammons about Miguel's possibilities to get traded FTW!
                          [10-08, 21:30] JayDizzle An alligator will kill you the fuck dead

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                          • nesper
                            Junior Member
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 648

                            #73
                            can stick a fork in the he's getting traded or shoped rumour.

                            ANAHEIM, Calif. -- Detroit Tigers general manager Dave Dombrowski tonight completely denied an ESPN report that first baseman Miguel Cabrera might be shopped around later this season in trade possibilities if the Tigers have a slow start and Detroit's economy...


                            "There's nothing that can happen this year that can make us think about trading Miguel Cabrera," Dombrowski said. "...The guy's only 26 and might be battling for the MVP Award."

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                            • Youk
                              Posts too much
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 7998

                              #74
                              Stats on 4/10: 3 HR, 10 RBI, .611 BA
                              Stats on 5/3: 5 HR, 17 RBI, .376 BA

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