Against Dirk, Shaq's efficiency was 21 less than Dirk's, and they both played more than 25 minutes. Shaq's only played more than 25 minutes 13 of the 46 games this season.
Stoudemire won't be traded to the Cavs, but this thread is still very lulzworthy.
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The reason Shaq does not play more than he does now is because his body cannot take it. You honestly think Shaq can average 40+ minutes a game and be able to continue putting up stellar stats? After one week of that, his knees would crumple into brown sugar. Shaq was a phenomenal center, but he's well past his prime. He's still good now, but you're putting him on an incredibly too high pedestal.
To say Shaq would have better stats than most centers in the league is not only idiotic and ignorant, it's just a flat out lie. You need to take all of those cavalier dicks out of mouth for two seconds and see the truth. Yes, the Cavs are the team to beat in the East, they have been for the last couple of years, but they are no where near as high as your putting them. Their bench is not the best in the NBA. Their 5 bench warmers would not start on any team in the league right now. Get that out of your little fucking head.
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Totally unrelated, but in the 47 games that LeBron and his opponent both play 25 or more minutes, he's had a better efficiency 45 times. The only two to have better? Rasual fucking Butler, and Gerald Wallace.
Anyways, Shaq can't play no 40 minutes a game dipshit, he probably can't even play 30.Comment
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I wanna remember all the Shaq hate come playoff time tho. He'll be a huge assett in the post-season. I aint fronting like Shaq aint gone to shit, cause he has.. hes struggling, but I think hes going to elevate his game in the playoffs. I dont think Shaq has it in him to play his heart off every nite anymore.. he'd be toast come playoff time. Shaq is leaving some in the tank for the post-season for sure, IMO. I hope im personally wrong tho.. cause im pretty tired of Shaq. I think he needs to use his personality for a couple of different career pathsm including WWE or MMA. I know hes interested in that.. but I cant blame Shaq for wanting to win another ring and getting his paper in the league, either.Comment
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I wanna remember all the Shaq hate come playoff time tho. He'll be a huge assett in the post-season. I aint fronting like Shaq aint gone to shit, cause he has.. hes struggling, but I think hes going to elevate his game in the playoffs. I dont think Shaq has it in him to play his heart off every nite anymore.. he'd be toast come playoff time. Shaq is leaving some in the tank for the post-season for sure, IMO. I hope im personally wrong tho.. cause im pretty tired of Shaq. I think he needs to use his personality for a couple of different career pathsm including WWE or MMA. I know hes interested in that.. but I cant blame Shaq for wanting to win another ring and getting his paper in the league, either.
Who needs Shaq right now? LeBron could win 50 games with scrubs like Boobie Gibson and Wally Sczerbiak if he had to. Oh shit, he has done that, that's right. Wait til May to judge the Shaq experiment IMO. Solid point KuzzerLast edited by NAHSTE; 02-15-2010, 10:11 PM.Comment
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I dont know if id go as far back as 2002, lol. After the first injury plagued season in Miami it all went down hill from there. He rejuvenated himself in Phoenix, but a lot of people do.Comment
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It just wasn't as noticeable then because he was still able to dominate on ability alone. Now that he's older his regular season coast jobs look even worse.Comment
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Who gives a crap if Shaq can play in the regular season...you don't have Shaq on your roster for the regular season, you pay him $20M for him in the playoffs...because you need a guy to play Dwight Howard come playoff time and give your team the ability to play Howard only one-on-one.
Shaq could sit out until the playoffs and no one should give a fuck...Comment
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Who gives a crap if Shaq can play in the regular season...you don't have Shaq on your roster for the regular season, you pay him $20M for him in the playoffs...because you need a guy to play Dwight Howard come playoff time and give your team the ability to play Howard only one-on-one.
Shaq could sit out until the playoffs and no one should give a fuck...
If by "anymore" you mean, since 2002, I agree. Shaq is not a regular season player anymore, Cleveland made the move to get past Orlando. And given how pissed off Shaq is at DH, I think it'll pay off in a 7-game series.
Who needs Shaq right now? LeBron could win 50 games with scrubs like Boobie Gibson and Wally Sczerbiak if he had to. Oh shit, he has done that, that's right. Wait til May to judge the Shaq experiment IMO. Solid point KuzzerComment
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The Miami Heat have intensified their efforts to trump Cleveland in the chase for Phoenix Suns forward Amare Stoudemire, sources close to the situation said Monday.
The Heat emerged from the All-Star break even more determined than they were before to find a third team to help them broker an Amare deal before Thursday's 3 p.m. deadline.
Miami is "coming hard" after Stoudemire, one source said.
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Although the Heat have first-round picks available to sweeten any Stoudemire deal -- with the Suns hoping to come away with at least one first-rounder if they decide to trade Stoudemire this week -- sources say Phoenix has no interest in taking back Jermaine O'Neal's hefty expiring contract because, at $23 million, it requires more players to be worked into the deal than the Suns are comfortable with.
Yet one source insisted Monday night that the Suns have not ruled out taking back forward Michael Beasley as part of a Stoudemire deal. The Heat -- after carefully preserving their salary-cap space for months -- are suddenly pushing hard to make a big trade splash now if possible instead of waiting for free agency in July and gambling on the idea that they can lure a marquee name such as LeBron James or Chris Bosh to South Beach to flank Dwyane Wade.
The Cavaliers are prepared to send Zydrunas Ilgauskas' expiring contract, young power forward J.J. Hickson and perhaps draft considerations to the Suns for Stoudemire, who appeared to give Cleveland further motivation to make that bold move when he used his Twitter feed Monday night to scoff at speculation that he and Cavs center Shaquille O'Neal can't co-exist.
"You guys can stop saying we don't play well together," Stoudemire tweeted.
A pick from the perennially contending Cavs obviously wouldn't be as enticing as a Miami draft pick, but sources say that Cleveland also continues to chase longtime target Antawn Jamison in case Miami assembles a better deal for Stoudemire. It likewise remains to be seen whether Philadelphia decides to make Andre Iguodala available after making it clear before the All-Star break that they are not prepared to surrender Iguodala in a Stoudemire deal.
"They're the wild card," one source said of the Sixers.
The Cavs resume play Thursday at home against Denver riding a 13-game win streak, but they still hope to come away with a big player by week's end. While Stoudemire leads their list, the Cavs have also been mentioned in relation to Washington's Jamison and Indiana's Troy Murphy. Sources told ESPN The Magazine's Chris Broussard on Monday that the Cavs are also in talks with the Warriors about Corey Maggette.
The Suns, meanwhile, appear intent on finally finding a workable trade for Stoudemire before the deadline -- even though the sides did briefly discuss a contract extension during All-Star Weekend in Dallas -- after shopping him heavily at last season's trading deadline as well. Stoudemire is averaging 21.2 points and 8.6 rebounds this season and started at center for the West in Sunday's All-Star Game."Many around the league are holding their breath until the Amar'e Stoudemire trade to the Cavaliers is announced.
But there could be one major road block.
A source said the five-time All-Star center let it be known that he does not want to come to Cleveland.
The Cavs have reportedly been informed of that news and have gone in another direction.
They had reportedly offered center Zydrunas Ilgauskas, promising young power forward J.J. Hickson and another player to the Suns for Stoudemire.
The source said judging from the changing winds of the NBA, it's not totally out of the question that the Cavs could still make a deal for Stoudemire.
But the 6-foot-10, 249-pound Stoudemire has little desire of joining LeBron James and Shaquille O'Neal on the Cavs, even if it meant bringing home an NBA championship.
One thing that could change Stoudemire's thought process, the source said, would be if the Cavs offered a contract extension. Stoudemire is supposedly seeking a three-year, $60 million extension.
He will earn $16.4 million this season and has a player option on his 2010-11 contract worth $17.7 million."
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Amar'e doesn't want to play in Cleveland. He's said that he's always dreamed playing on South Beach.
If the Heat can get a 3rd team and dump JO's salary it would work out. But more than likely, we'd take Barbosa and JRich in addition to Amar'e.
Wade/Beasley/Stoudemire would be lethal.
All Miami would need would be a PG to get the job done in the East with a better supporting cast.
I'm in favor of Amar'e coming to Miami. There is no guarantee that come summer, Miami will sign a big name F/A such as Bosh or LeBron to play alongside Wade.
Bottom line is, Amar'e will be in a different jersey come Thursday afternoon.
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I do not think the Heat will move Beasley in a deal for Amar'e as Micky Arison has stated that he wants to keep Michael.
Only if the Heat had better young products other than Dorell Wright. Such as Marcos Thornton who we traded for Pat Beverly who isn't even on the team anymore. Thornton is averaging 10/2 for New Orleans atm. Ehh, going to be a very interesting week...Last edited by Miami Flash15; 02-16-2010, 12:28 AM.
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Amar'e doesn't want to play in Cleveland. He's said that he's always dreamed playing on South Beach.
If the Heat can get a 3rd team and dump JO's salary it would work out. But more than likely, we'd take Barbosa and JRich in addition to Amar'e.
Wade/Beasley/Stoudemire would be lethal.
All Miami would need would be a PG to get the job done in the East with a better supporting cast.
I'm in favor of Amar'e coming to Miami. There is no guarantee that come summer, Miami will sign a big name F/A such as Bosh or LeBron to play alongside Wade.
Bottom line is, Amar'e will be in a different jersey come Thursday afternoon.
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I do not think the Heat will move Beasley in a deal for Amar'e as Micky Arison has stated that he wants to keep Michael.
Only if the Heat had better young products other than Dorell Wright. Such as Marcos Thornton who we traded for Pat Beverly who isn't even on the team anymore. Thornton is averaging 10/2 for New Orleans atm. Ehh, going to be a very interesting week...
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