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  • corbin
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 1963

    #16
    At what point do you sacrifice the future for the present? I saw the Celtics do it for KG, I saw the suns do it for Shaq, I saw the Mavs do it for Jason Kidd. They all gave up good young players for a single player that they thought could put them over the top.

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    • The Messenger
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2008
      • 5063

      #17
      Originally posted by Primetime232
      I really question your basketball knowledge sometimes. Amare WAS a huge liability, when he was playing Center. Amare was always out on the perimeter rather than bumping uglies in the paint. That's why he was a liability. He has been a solid defender since his slide to the 4 and is only continuing to beast.
      Ah... your serious?

      Amare is as good of a defender as Bruce Bowen is an offensive weapon. Amare is lazy on defense and is always getting beat. He's not even a good help defender. Averaging a decent amount of blocks does not make you a good defender, Amare couldn't shut down Kurt Thomas if he tried.


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      • The Messenger
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2008
        • 5063

        #18
        Originally posted by Primetime232
        Hawks wouldn't do that. They have too much future invested in Josh Smith.
        Have to hit you with an "are you serious?" again.

        If the Suns offered Amare for Smith, the Hawks would do it in a heart beat. A dominating big man is worth much.... MUCH more than a defensive small forward with the ability to slash and score.


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        • Primetime
          Thank You Prince
          • Nov 2008
          • 17526

          #19
          Originally posted by The Messenger
          Ah... your serious?

          Amare is as good of a defender as Bruce Bowen is an offensive weapon. Amare is lazy on defense and is always getting beat. He's not even a good help defender. Averaging a decent amount of blocks does not make you a good defender, Amare couldn't shut down Kurt Thomas if he tried.
          You're still living in 2006. If you'd watch Amare night in and night out, you'd see the progress he's made after switching to the 4.

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          • Primetime
            Thank You Prince
            • Nov 2008
            • 17526

            #20
            Originally posted by The Messenger
            Have to hit you with an "are you serious?" again.

            If the Suns offered Amare for Smith, the Hawks would do it in a heart beat. A dominating big man is worth much.... MUCH more than a defensive small forward with the ability to slash and score.
            A 6 year deal is worth more than a year and a half rental.

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            • The Messenger
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2008
              • 5063

              #21
              Originally posted by Primetime232
              A 6 year deal is worth more than a year and a half rental.
              Not if it means grabbing a big man that can push you over the edge. The Hawks wouldn't do anything this season except maybe escape the first round, but next season they'd be set to be a top team in the East.


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              • corbin
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2008
                • 1963

                #22
                Ill add one more thing to it. Josh Smith is a great athlete and he has loads of potential but when playoff time rolls around, you would rather have Stoudemire no doubt. Amare could put them up as an elite team in the east, they would be down right scary in the playoffs. Also, even if this year doesn't work out you have amare for a full year NEXT year. Then when that comes up(who knows maybe the Hawks win a ring) Amare can make a decision to bolt to another team and you have free'd up even more cap space for another key player. You see what I am saying? If you have any more realistic trade offers, please share.
                Last edited by corbin; 02-05-2009, 08:29 PM.

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                • zack54attack
                  Posts a lot
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 4296

                  #23
                  Originally posted by mfbmike
                  You're in la-la land if you think the Bulls are going to land Amare rofl.
                  How? The Bulls have players to offer. Forget Hughes and Gooden. They have Tyrus Thomas, Deng, Gordon, Hinrich and picks.

                  Plus Steve Kerr.... Hmmmm Dont you think he would want to help out the Bulls? I'm sure he'd love too.


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                  • Point Blank
                    Needs a hobby
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 14184

                    #24
                    I don't think he's going anywhere.

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                    • zack54attack
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                      • Dec 2008
                      • 4296

                      #25
                      I was thinking.. the Bulls have the best package to give them. I'd love Tyrus to stay cause hes improving game by game and is a freakish athlete.

                      I just wish Paxson would pull the trigger, unlike with Gasol, and Garnett.


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                      • A Tasty Burgerr
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                        • Oct 2008
                        • 5916

                        #26
                        Originally posted by sunsfolife
                        funny, none of these deals help the suns right now
                        am i living a dream and think they have the slightest crack to win?
                        if they get their fucking act together they can be the best team in the LEAGUE
                        I flat out do not see the Suns having a shot at contending for the title. They just can't compete with the elite level teams. IMO they should start the rebuilding process now and not try to stretch these last two years out into a couple 45 game win seasons and first round exits.

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                        • IamMedellin
                          Everything Burns...
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 10910

                          #27
                          so theyre done...

                          damn....if it wasnt for that robert Horry cheapshot....y'all mighta had a ring...

                          I'd just deal every1...JRich,Nash,shaq,




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                          • mfbmike
                            Goat****er
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 4793

                            #28
                            Originally posted by zack54attack
                            How? The Bulls have players to offer. Forget Hughes and Gooden. They have Tyrus Thomas, Deng, Gordon, Hinrich and picks.
                            :ice: You can't be serious.

                            Originally posted by zack54attack
                            Plus Steve Kerr.... Hmmmm Dont you think he would want to help out the Bulls? I'm sure he'd love too.
                            Steve Kerr bent MJ over and stuck it in with no lube with that suns/bobcats deal. You honestly think he gives a shit about helping former teammates/teams?

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                            • zack54attack
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                              • Dec 2008
                              • 4296

                              #29
                              Originally posted by mfbmike
                              :ice: You can't be serious.



                              Steve Kerr bent MJ over and stuck it in with no lube with that suns/bobcats deal. You honestly think he gives a shit about helping former teammates/teams?
                              You really dont think the suns wouldnt be interested in Gordon, Hinrich, Thomas or picks?

                              Your an idiot if you dont think so.



                              What are you talking about? That was a good deal for both teams. If anything it sucked for the Suns. They are going to rebuild.
                              Last edited by zack54attack; 02-06-2009, 05:01 PM.


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                              • mfbmike
                                Goat****er
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 4793

                                #30
                                Originally posted by zack54attack
                                You really dont think the suns wouldnt be interested in Gordon, Hinrich, Thomas or pics?

                                Your an idiot if you dont think so.



                                What are you talking about? That was a good deal for both teams. If anything it sucked for the Suns. They are going to rebuild.
                                Yes, I really think the Suns wouldn't be interested in those players. I must be an idiot yet I'm sure a lot of people would agree with me. Gordon expires at the end of the season. I haven't followed Hinrich this season but I know his performance last season was a decline from the previous one where teh Bulls made it to 2nd round of playoffs. Thomas is a freak athlete but still hasn't lived up to his potential.

                                The Suns picked up J-Rich in a rebuilding effort? They picked up a 3 yr contract valued at over 40 million dollars to rebuild? You have got to be shitting me. They picked him up for another offensive weapon to gun for a championship. Maybe they are starting to realize now it isn't going to happen but to say they picked up J-Rich to rebuild is absurd.

                                Btw, if you're going to call someone an idiot, don't forget your apostrophe brah.

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