Nets To Acquire Deron Williams

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  • ralaw
    Posts too much
    • Feb 2009
    • 6662

    #31
    I really like this deal for the Nets and much more than what they had for Melo, because in Williams there getting a better player who plays a position that is much more important to the franchise. The only issue now is getting some FA's and drafting appropriately. The Nets have a better chance of building around Williams than they did around Melo.

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    • EmpireWF
      Giants in the Super Bowl
      • Mar 2009
      • 24082

      #32
      The only way this is a failure for Jersey is if Deron Williams bolts in 2012. Until then, you cannot consider it anything other than a major win.

      I heard one report where Dallas wanted to acquire Devin Harris and move him to Utah for Williams because they knew Utah liked Harris and was looking to get rid of Williams.

      With that said, this was nothing short of a shocker when I first saw it.


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      • ryne candy
        Aggie C/O '01
        • Feb 2009
        • 4355

        #33
        Originally posted by EmpireWF
        The only way this is a failure for Jersey is if Deron Williams bolts in 2012. Until then, you cannot consider it anything other than a major win.

        I heard one report where Dallas wanted to acquire Devin Harris and move him to Utah for Williams because they knew Utah liked Harris and was looking to get rid of Williams.

        With that said, this was nothing short of a shocker when I first saw it.
        Exactly what I was thinking. Just looking at Williams, I could see him sporting a Nets uni for the next couple of years.

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        • FirstTimer
          Freeman Error

          • Feb 2009
          • 18720

          #34
          I'm still thinking after his contract expires he jumps across town to the Knicks. Unless the Nets hold on to Lopez and can get Howard as well.

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          • Sigona
            Posts too much
            • Aug 2010
            • 9926

            #35
            Originally posted by FirstTimer
            I'm still thinking after his contract expires he jumps across town to the Knicks. Unless the Nets hold on to Lopez and can get Howard as well.
            Knicks are going to go after Paul harder than they would Williams...and in that case he would have no other choice but to stay in NJ if he wants to have a chance at a superteam. Nets have the cap room to do some damage so the next few seasons will be interesting.

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            • Cody
              GOAAAAL
              • Jul 2010
              • 1910

              #36
              Nets failed, didn't expect this at all.

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              • Juggernaut
                Sitting on the Sidelines
                • Dec 2008
                • 5669

                #37
                Originally posted by ralaw
                I really like this deal for the Nets and much more than what they had for Melo, because in Williams there getting a better player who plays a position that is much more important to the franchise. The only issue now is getting some FA's and drafting appropriately. The Nets have a better chance of building around Williams than they did around Melo.
                better player? Arguable. There are arguably 3 better point guards than him in Paul, Rondo and Rose.

                Melo, imo, is a top 3 small forward, with perhaps Durant over him, and LeBron being the clear cut #1.

                Also, more important to the franchise? Not necessarily, look at the past 15 years. Which team has the point guard as their best player?

                Lakers/Spurs/Bulls had role players starting at point.
                Miami had Shaq/Wade. Pistons had solid, not great, players at every position.
                Celtics are the one wrench in the past 15 years, but that's unfair since that team started 3 future hall of famers. Even then, rondo wasn't "the guy" during the championship run, it was more his coming out party than anything.

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                • ralaw
                  Posts too much
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 6662

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Juggernaut
                  better player? Arguable. There are arguably 3 better point guards than him in Paul, Rondo and Rose.
                  Rondo? The only PG's the could be considered better than Williams is Rose or Paul and if a person believed they were it would only be by a very, very slim margin that I couldn't even figure out. At this point neither Rose nor Paul do anything that Williams can't do. With these three PG's it comes down to a matter of preference.

                  Melo, imo, is a top 3 small forward, with perhaps Durant over him, and LeBron being the clear cut #1.
                  I don't understand your point. Most rational people lump Williams with Paul and now Rose, so even if a person believed Rose or Paul were better that would still make Williams #3, which is were Anthony is at his position. You even said arguably Paul or Rose could be better than Williams, but they arguably aren't as well....there is no debate at SF...James is clearly better than Anthony and most would take Durant over Anthony as well. Based on positional value an elite PG is always better than an elite wing scorer not named LeBron James or Kevin Durant. Williams can get a team 20ppg while still keeping everyone else involved in the offense, which is why he gets 10 apg. Anthony can get 25-30 with a few rebounds, but that's about it.

                  Also, more important to the franchise? Not necessarily, look at the past 15 years. Which team has the point guard as their best player?

                  Lakers/Spurs/Bulls had role players starting at point.
                  Miami had Shaq/Wade. Pistons had solid, not great, players at every position.
                  Celtics are the one wrench in the past 15 years, but that's unfair since that team started 3 future hall of famers. Even then, rondo wasn't "the guy" during the championship run, it was more his coming out party than anything.
                  I don't get your point of bringing up these teams, because none of them had a PG of Williams caliber and Anthony isn't of the same caliber as Kobe, Duncan (in his prime), Jordan, Wade, or Shaq...and in NJ he wouldn't have been surrounded by guys like the Celtics or Pistons had....he actually would have been in a worse position than he was in Denver. As far as the Spurs 2007 team it could be argued that Tony Parker was the best player on the team during the playoffs.

                  Anthony is great player, but he's never been the guy that was going to lift the franchise to championships, because he isn't the leader nor playmaker. Anthony's game is about scoring and not much else. This is why he needed Billups to even make the Nuggets viable contenders. In saying this there is nothing wrong with what Anthony brings, but he's a second tier star.

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