NBA Lockout discussion. *Update 11/14* Union to Decertify

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  • thilanwij
    Member
    • Apr 2009
    • 916

    Originally posted by EmpireWF
    Player reps are meeting Monday to discuss the latest owners offer. Talk is the bulk of the players understand the offer will not improve and actually will likely worsen if this drags on.

    Shaun Powell writes according to his sources that if the deal is accepted tomorrow, business could begin as soon as Wednesday.
    Thanks for the info man. Lookin forward to the result of tomorrow's meeting! Damn i hope this goes well...can't take not having rookies in my NBA 2k12 OR no NBA at all

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    • EmpireWF
      Giants in the Super Bowl
      • Mar 2009
      • 24082

      Even if players accept the owners' current offer, they could still be resistant to demands on other items.


      lol

      The owners want to be able to contract teams without talking with the union. They also want to be able to cut into the players share of BRI should they contract teams during the deal.


      They also want off season drug testing including some issues where they would need blood testing.

      In addition to other smaller issues, there's a lot of work that needs to be done to get both to agree.


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      • FirstTimer
        Freeman Error

        • Feb 2009
        • 18720

        NEW YORK -- NBA Players Association executive director Billy Hunter says the union will not accept the owners' proposed collective bargaining agreement and will seek to disband the union and act as a trade association.

        The union, whose members have been locked out since July 1st, also plans to pursue an antitrust lawsuit against the NBA, a move that likely jeopardizes the 2011-12 season.

        "As of this moment, we're going to be in the process of converting the NBA Players Association into a trade associaton," Hunter said Monday.

        Hunter said the union has negotiated in good faith over two years and feels that they have given enough, while the NBA was "not willing and prepared to negotiate."

        "The players feel that they are not prepared to accept any ultimatums," Hunter said.

        "Going forward, collective bargaining will not be how this process continues for us," added union president Derek Fisher. "We'll let our legal team really lead the charge."
        Union is decertifying.

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        • NAHSTE
          Probably owns the site
          • Feb 2009
          • 22233

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          • Warner2BruceTD
            2011 Poster Of The Year
            • Mar 2009
            • 26141

            The Union is really fucking the middle and lower class, here.

            Worse yet, is some of these big name stars will eat up the overseas jobs if it comes down to that. As if Kobe needs another dollar for the rest of his life.

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            • Chrispy
              Needs a hobby
              • Dec 2008
              • 11403

              The Owners seem to want everything but won't give up anything from what i've heard and read.

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              • FedEx227
                Delivers
                • Mar 2009
                • 10454

                It's a lockout, so unfortunately that is going to be the case. It ends when the players meet their demands, simple as that. Hunter and Fisher can fight all they want and try to turn the table but at the end of the day they'll have to accept the most fair offer.

                The NBAPA continues to try and act as if they have leverage and they don't, they have zero leverage.
                VoicesofWrestling.com

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                • Warner2BruceTD
                  2011 Poster Of The Year
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 26141

                  Originally posted by cpollack09
                  The Owners seem to want everything but won't give up anything from what i've heard and read.

                  The owners offered some concessions last week, but he players balked. That was their chance. The owners knew Day 1 that they had the players by the balls, and the players are too stubborn to concede this. The owners are not going to break. Some are losing less money by not playing. The union needs to just eat a dick on this one, they have zero leverage.

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                  • ralaw
                    Posts too much
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 6662

                    This really isn't much of a surprise. I'm wondering why they didn't do this earlier, as decertifying now really puts the season in jeopardy because the courts take forever.

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                    • Warner2BruceTD
                      2011 Poster Of The Year
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 26141

                      Originally posted by ralaw
                      This really isn't much of a surprise. I'm wondering why they didn't do this earlier, as decertifying now really puts the season in jeopardy because the courts take forever.
                      And we all know how speedy the court system operates.

                      This season is toast, time to focus on next season starting on time.

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                      • ralaw
                        Posts too much
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 6662

                        Now I wish Kyrie Irving and some of the other rookies would have stayed in college.

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                        • FedEx227
                          Delivers
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 10454

                          Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
                          The owners offered some concessions last week, but he players balked. That was their chance. The owners knew Day 1 that they had the players by the balls, and the players are too stubborn to concede this. The owners are not going to break. Some are losing less money by not playing. The union needs to just eat a dick on this one, they have zero leverage.
                          Exactly.

                          Players had over 10 years with a ridiculously out of wack BRI that tremendously favored them. The owners are asking for a more balanced BRI and it's being balked at by King Shithead Derek Fisher. They should've agreed to the owners 51-49 BRI from a few weeks ago but instead are holding out for an offer that somehow still benefits them more, despite having no leverage.

                          It's retarded on numerous levels.
                          VoicesofWrestling.com

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                          • Senser81
                            VSN Poster of the Year
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 12804

                            I think Rush and Gambino would have gotten this settled by now. Goodbye, NBA.

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                            • EmpireWF
                              Giants in the Super Bowl
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 24082

                              Sounds like the secondary issues are why a deal couldn't get done.

                              Funny now that the former union is threatening (or in the process) to sue the league over antitrust issues while Stern is threatening to cancel all player contracts.

                              They're not playing this year.

                              What's silly is that everyone knew since before last season that this would likely happen and the old farts still couldn't work it out.

                              Fuck 'em.

                              Here's to opening night of the 2012-13 season.


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                              • KNUBB
                                WHITE RONDO
                                • Jun 2009
                                • 7973

                                Fuck these guys


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