Kyrie Irving

[Archer]

Most people said take Irving or take Williams and Knight since Cleveland had two high picks.

I never heard anything about Kanter but he does look like he will also have a great future. His rebound rate and general strength around the basket is insane for a rookie.

[A Tasty Burgerr]

Ugh you guys are going to make me go back and find the thread.

[A Tasty Burgerr]

I guess a lot of people were also in favor of Williams over Irving, but also said they'd take Kanter too.

I have no idea why Enes Kanter is NOT the #1 pick in this draft, if not the #2 pick.

Irving #1 overall? You don't need a PG to win the in the NBA. Taking a PG #1 overall is like taking a RB #1 overall...dumb.

Agree with Larry, Irving is gonna come into the league with the hopes of becoming the 11th or 12th best PG at best. Even if he reaches his full potential, I don't see him as a difference maker.

Kanter could be a bust but he at least is a rarer commodity and thus has a higher chance of being a difference maker.

Cleveland should definitely aim for Williams at #1 and Kanter at #4. How Irving is even in consideration for them shows how piss-poor their management is.

I'd take Williams or Kanter at 1. More than likely Williams because IMO he's more proven and at the premier position in the NBA right now.

If the Cavs can get Williams and Kanter and those guys develop all they need to do is get a servicable PG and they will be fine.

I'm firmly in the Williams>Irving camp for the #1 pick.

I see huge bust potential with both Irving and Williams. While i don't think Irving will be horrible, i don't see him being the star point guard that people think he will be. He is a pure point, but it looks like he may be close to his ceiling already, but i've been wrong about point guards in the past, and i did suggest that the Bulls pick Beasley over Rose so hey this could be a repeat of the past.

In the end i would pair Williams and Kanter if i were the Cavs, Ramon Sessions has already proven to be a more than serviceable starting point guard.

[Rudi]

That really proves how much NBA knowledge people have around these parts.

[Rudi]

Thats mah point gaud

[Rudi]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFiIiypFQKw"]Kyrie Irving crosses up Iman Shumpert (Feb 29, 2012) - YouTube[/ame]

[Rudi]

Going to use this to vent my frustration about the Cavs...as they have lost 6 in a row, and now go on the road to face Denver and the Thunder next. Oh well I suppose it had to happen eventually especially with Varejao out. It's about time we try and dish off Anthony Parker and Jamison for anything we can get. This team with a high draft pick [I want Harrison Barnes oh so bad] to play alongside Kyrie will be fun to watch in the coming years.

[FirstTimer]

I guess a lot of people were also in favor of Williams over Irving, but also said they'd take Kanter too.

I'd still take Williams over Irving #1.

[Archer]

I'd still take Williams over Irving #1.

:joeybats:

[FirstTimer]

:joeybats:

NBA is a wing dominated game. If I can get a potential star on the wing. Pair him with a really nice PG from a draft pick at #4 then I do it.

[Archer]

NBA is a wing dominated game. If I can get a potential star on the wing. Pair him with a really nice PG from a draft pick at #4 then I do it.

I'd argue today's NBA is a PG dominated game. Irving has top 5 PG potential and Derrick Williams is still a tweener despite being an exciting talent.

[FirstTimer]

I'd argue today's NBA is a PG dominated game. .

I wouldn't.

How many PG centric teams have won NBA titles?

[Rudi]

Derrick Williams is a 15/10 guy at best I think. Kyrie Irving is a superstar.

[FirstTimer]

Derrick Williams is a 15/10 guy at best I think. Kyrie Irving is a superstar.

[Archer]

I wouldn't.

How many PG centric teams have won NBA titles?

Not many but I'd argue today's rules and with the recent talent influx at PG has made it a huge need if you want to be in the playoffs. (unless you have a superstar at a different position)

Even without this argument... you'd take a tweener over a potential and probable top 5 PG?