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[JimLeavy59]

So Tony Parker is on the short list for league MVP and doesn't make first team?

Duncan is always a good choice, even at 37 he is a near unstoppable force once he gets on a roll.

[FirstTimer]

Learn to quote correctly.

Maybe, you'll read this:

Awesome. So he shoots a career high from the field, shoots a career low from the ft line and it's his most efficient year ever because of one stat despite every other one either being in the middle or the back of the pack.

Strong argument.

[FedEx227]

Wow, this thread really sucks.

Dude it's the NBA section at VSN. You know what you're going to get.

Awfulness.

[Warner2BruceTD]

In watching Curry all year, his defense was not nearly as bad as advertised. He's active defensively and seems to turn it up late in games with some timely steals. You get the sense he's coached to not play as hard as he can on that end of the floor to stay out of foul trouble.

What I notice a lot of teams do to him, is run him through tons of screens, where he tends to get banged around and lost in traffic because he's so small and not that strong. But as far as an on ball defender, he doesn't hurt the team. With that said, he doesn't ever draw key matchups. He's usually guarding the worst guard on the floor. Draymond Green usually draws the best offensive player in crunch time/final possessions, regardless of position.

[G-men]

The Kobe treatment. He and Parker should be switched up.

LOL at you defending Wade for his spot who definitely got votes for being Dwyane Wade, and then going and saying Parker got shafted because of "The Kobe Treatment."

[FirstTimer]

LOL at you defending Wade for his spot who definitely got votes for being Dwyane Wade, and then going and saying Parker got shafted because of "The Kobe Treatment."

But Kobe didn't shoot a career high from the field!

[JimLeavy59]

But Kobe didn't shoot a career high from the field!

Played dreadful defense and hogged the ball, first team for sure.

[Saluki]

Curry played in more games, played more minutes and had a better season.

Wade shot a dismal 25% from long range. Curry shot 45% while shooting nearly the same percentage from beyond the arc. That's just stupid awesome.

Curry's TS% was better. eFG was better. His WS was also better.

Wade had a better PER and had some better defensive numbers but Curry had easily the better season.

Curry was great from outside, but inside Wade's numbers kill his

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[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Curry>Wade

No.

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Harden is undervalued here. Took a team that was contending for the #1 pick to the playoffs with a monster season. I'd have him as my second teamer at G with Russell Westbrook.

Brook Lopez can't rebound, but he had a much better season than Dwight Howard.

I would have had these teams like this...

1st Team -> Paul, Kobe, James, Durant, Gasol
2nd Team -> Westbrook, Harden, Carmelo, Griffin, Duncan.
3rd Team -> Parker, Wade, George, Aldridge , Lopez

I'd love to fit Curry in there, I just don't see where there is room.

[FirstTimer]

No.

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Harden is undervalued here. Took a team that was contending for the #1 pick to the playoffs with a monster season. I'd have him as my second teamer at G with Russell Westbrook.

Brook Lopez can't rebound, but he had a much better season than Dwight Howard.

I would have had these teams like this...

1st Team -> Paul, Kobe, James, Durant, Gasol
2nd Team -> Westbrook, Harden, Carmelo, Griffin, Duncan.
3rd Team -> Parker, Wade, George, Aldridge , Lopez

I'd love to fit Curry in there, I just don't see where there is room.

Strong argument.

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Strong argument.

Common sense is the argument. If you think Curry > Wade, you probably have Downs.

[FirstTimer]

Common sense is the argument. If you think Curry > Wade, you probably have Downs.

Curry had a better season.

Much like the best player doesn't always win MVP it's not impossible for one player to be viewed as better than another one yet the "worse" player has a better year and gets an award.

But good stuff.

Thanks for the input!

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Curry had a better season? wut?

Curry went 23/7/4 at 21.34 PER as a #1.
Wade went 21/5/5 at 24.04 PER as a #2.

Curry isn't even in Wade's sport as a defender.

Like I said, you got Downs if you think Curry is better.

:looza:

[FedEx227]

Again, the difference between Wade and Curry on defense isn't as big as you guys are making it.

DefRTG (Measures a team's points allowed per 100 possessions. On a player level this statistic is team points allowed per 100 possessions while he is on court.)

Wade: 99.4
Curry: 103.8

Again, yes, Wade is better. But let's get off the "Curry isn't even in Wade's league". Wade isn't even in "old" Wade's league anymore.

[FirstTimer]

Curry had a better season? wut?

Curry went 23/7/4 at 21.34 PER as a #1.
Wade went 21/5/5 at 24.04 PER as a #2.

Curry isn't even in Wade's sport as a defender.

Like I said, you got Downs if you think Curry is better.

:looza:

Oh cool.One stat. PER. Pretty much every other stat gives the advantage to CUrry with the exception of some thin advantages in WS/48 and defensive metrics.

And I'm sure Wade's efficiency isn't helped at all by getting to play off James. Nah. No way.

For fuck sakes this section sucks.