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I think the issue with Noah is more complex.
1. That pick was the Bulls pick through the Knicks as part of the Curry trade, having already taken Ty Thomas the year before and seeing his failures as a rookie the Bulls fans wanted to see the Bulls make a bigger splash at #9 and actually feel as though they got something good from the Curry deal. They ended up taking Noah. Which essentially was Ty Thomas with a few more years in college and less of an offensive game.
I know draft experts said Noah would be no more than a role player but even still the perception with fans is that with a lottery/top 10 pick you should get an impact player, not a role player. The goal is/should be an impact player. If the guy ends up being a role player so be it, but IMO you don't take a guy at #9 with the intention of him being a role player. That's what the Bulls did there with Noah.
Hard to sell that to a fan base who feels they are a legit post scoring threat away from being a real contender.
2. The pick of Noah didn't make any sense from a team needs stand point. The Bulls biggest problem since the departure of Curry had been the lack of inside scoring. Ty Thomas didn't solve this a year before and Noah, with an even more limited offensive game, definetly didn't solve it in '07. A player like Spencer Hawes was available and the Bulls passed on him. Hawes was the type of player the Bulls needed to score inside IMO and should have been the pick, especially with Wallace and Thomas already on the roster.
Essentially the pick was considered a "bust" by many as soon as Stern announced Noah's name because the pick didn't make any sense.
3. Noah has been a distraction numerous times and as much as he was brought into be a leader, energy guy in many ways has fell short. From arrests last season, to being out of shape for most of this year he just hasn't showed the focus and dedication you'd like to see from someone who was a top 10 pick.Last edited by FirstTimer; 03-25-2009, 09:40 AM.Comment
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Yeah, wasn't he suspended for a couple games last year for, really, no other reason than everyone else on the team couldn't stand him? All I know is I wouldn't want that idiot on my team at all, much less give up a #9 overall pick for him. He's like TO without TO's ability.Comment
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Actually your post made only a little bit of sense seeing as in your example you included guys like Ray Allen and KG. Two players not even drafted by the Celtics. Your intial thought that it would be impossible to think like the original poster because of salary restrictions etc was on the right path, then your swerved off the road into a tree in your mumbled, non sensical example, obviously not even knowing who drafted whom, and showing you didn't even comprhend the point of the thread..... completely killing any point you were trying to make.Originally posted by Heelsox
My dad may not have hugged me but it's made up for by the fact that I wake up every morning with your mom's face in my crotch.
I'd say it's more than an even trade.
BJ's>>>hugs.Comment
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Furthest thing from even being good mockery as well. It was an epic fail at even trying to mock the original posters point.Originally posted by Heelsox
So in summation:
You come into a thread. State something that has already been said as if it's new.
Then go on to try and mock the OP
Miss on your attempt badly b/c you include players they traded for and didn't draft.
Look like a jackass.
Nice job.
That reminds me. Your mom likes golden showers too.Originally posted by HeelsoxComment
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And when did I say my thread was realistic? I already presented an example of a realistic scenario on page 1 of this thread, the Phoenix Suns example. Obviously my Falcons thread was ridiculous, but so is a thread that asks what would happen if a team can keep every draft pick for 10 years. Especially a team that has had as many top 5 picks as Chicago in that span.
It ignores important factors like salary cap and team record that prevent a team from building such fantastical rosters.Last edited by NAHSTE; 03-25-2009, 12:07 PM.
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LOL wtf why was I groaned now, this thread was made like last year.sigpicComment
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I just groaned you too. Thought it was a recent thread.
Still awful though... so you deserve it.
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