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  • FirstTimer
    Freeman Error

    • Feb 2009
    • 18729

    #61
    Originally posted by J.Hen
    Sorry. I get my Vick morons crossed up from time to time. I mean between Userpikk's idiocy and your continued retarded insistance that you'd still take Vick's career over LT.....It overloads my idiot detectors.

    Plus Steve Young and Cunningham>>>Vick as a scrambler. But that's neither here nor there...
    Last edited by FirstTimer; 06-12-2009, 12:26 PM.

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    • Kuzzy Powers
      Beautiful Like Moses
      • Oct 2008
      • 12542

      #62
      Errrrr I dont wanna read thru this whole thread but from the first page, its absolutely retarded not to consider Vick anything but a bust. Even if you consider what he did on the field to be good (which it wasnt all that spectacular) he immediately became a bust when he physically couldnt even play football because he was in jail. Surely this is worthy of bust status.. if it wasnt for Matt Ryan the Falcons would've been set back half a decade atleast.

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      • j.hen
        Self Care
        • Oct 2008
        • 10058

        #63
        Originally posted by Firsttimer

        1,000 yard season=overrated seeing as sack yardage doesn't come off of that. And again I direct your attention to Bobby Douglass...
        lol Bobby Douglass. Okay lets compare career rushing stats of the two.

        Vick: 6 seasons, 3,859 yards rushing 21 TDs
        Douglass: 11 seasons, 2,654 yards rushing, 22 TDs


        Just because someone was the first to do something doesnt mean the next guy isnt better.

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        • j.hen
          Self Care
          • Oct 2008
          • 10058

          #64
          Originally posted by Firsttimer
          Plus Steve Young and Cunningham>>>Vick as a scrambler. But that's neither here nor there...
          Lets look at it again then:

          Vick: 6 seasons, 3,859 yards rushing 21 TDs
          Cunningham: 16 seasons, 4,928 yards rushing 35 TDs
          Young: 15 seasons, 4,239 yards rushing, 43 TDs


          I would of liked to see Vick's stats had he been able to play the last 2 years.
          Last edited by j.hen; 06-12-2009, 12:33 PM.

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          • FirstTimer
            Freeman Error

            • Feb 2009
            • 18729

            #65
            Originally posted by J.Hen
            lol Bobby Douglass. Okay lets compare career rushing stats of the two.

            Vick: 6 seasons, 3,859 yards rushing 21 TDs
            Douglass: 11 seasons, 2,654 yards rushing, 22 TDs


            Just because someone was the first to do something doesnt mean the next guy isnt better.

            Ok dumbass. The point is Bobby Douglass held the record before Vick. Bobby Douglass=shit QB. So therefore Vick breaking a shitty QB's record isn't that big of a deal.

            No one would consider Bobby Douglass a good QB

            Which also means...
            Just because you own a record doesn't neccessarily make you good in general.

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            • Kuzzy Powers
              Beautiful Like Moses
              • Oct 2008
              • 12542

              #66
              Vick = greatest running QB of all time.

              Unfortunately, hes a QB, not a RB. So altho that may be the big feat for Michael.. it means little in the full scale of the league.

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              • FirstTimer
                Freeman Error

                • Feb 2009
                • 18729

                #67
                Originally posted by J.Hen
                Lets look at it again then:

                Vick: 6 seasons, 3,859 yards rushing 21 TDs
                Cunningham: 16 seasons, 4,928 yards rushing 35 TDs
                Young: 15 seasons, 4,239 yards rushing, 43 TDs


                I would of liked to see Vick's stats had he been able to play the last 2 years.
                I would of loved to see Young and Cunninghams stats if all they could do was run...............................

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                • j.hen
                  Self Care
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 10058

                  #68
                  Originally posted by Firsttimer
                  Ok dumbass. The point is Bobby Douglass held the record before Vick. Bobby Douglass=shit QB. So therefore Vick breaking a shitty QB's record isn't that big of a deal.

                  No one would consider Bobby Douglass a good QB

                  Which also means...
                  Just because you own a record doesn't neccessarily make you good in general.

                  What I'm saying is Vick was the best at what he did, like Spydr he was a dangerous weapon for his team and he forced other team's defenses to solely scheme and game plan to stop him.

                  If you're too bias to agree then its pointless to even go on with this BS.

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                  • FirstTimer
                    Freeman Error

                    • Feb 2009
                    • 18729

                    #69
                    Originally posted by J.Hen
                    What I'm saying is Vick was the best at what he did, like Spydr he was a dangerous weapon for his team and he forced other team's defenses to solely scheme and game plan to stop him.
                    Ha! Yes, so I'm sure when teams played the Falcons they ONLY ever worried about Vick. Nothing else. Please.

                    Here's an easy way to stop Vick.

                    Let him throw.

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                    • j.hen
                      Self Care
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 10058

                      #70
                      Originally posted by Firsttimer
                      I would of loved to see Young and Cunninghams stats if all they could do was run...............................
                      Young and Cunningham werent running for their lives every play. Not to mention they had top tier receivers getting open for them both. (Jerry Rice, Cris Carter, Randy Moss, Terrell Owens)

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                      • Senser81
                        VSN Poster of the Year
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 12804

                        #71
                        Originally posted by J.Hen
                        What I'm saying is Vick was the best at what he did, like Spydr he was a dangerous weapon for his team and he forced other team's defenses to solely scheme and game plan to stop him.
                        Because if you stopped Vick, you stopped the Falcons because Vick was unable to get his teammates involved (look at Roddy White...bust with Vick, star with Ryan). He couldn't pass. Half the time he wouldn't even attempt a pass, he'd just dance around and get sacked. The entire goal of the opposing defense was to force Vick to pass. Your argument is like the opposite of logic. The defense wants Vick to pass the football, thus Vick is an elite QB. Do you think Vick is the only QB in the NFL whom defensive coordinators 'gameplanned against'? Sheesh.

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                        • j.hen
                          Self Care
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 10058

                          #72
                          Originally posted by Firsttimer
                          Ha! Yes, so I'm sure when teams played the Falcons they ONLY ever worried about Vick. Nothing else. Please.

                          Here's an easy way to stop Vick.

                          Let him throw.

                          So teams didnt spend extra time game planning exclusively for Vick?

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                          • FirstTimer
                            Freeman Error

                            • Feb 2009
                            • 18729

                            #73
                            And disagree with Vick being the best scarmbling QB ever. Part of being the best at something is using it to yuor full advantage. Cunningham and Young especially used their scarmbling abilities and the threat of it to excel in the passing game. Vick's scarmbling numbers are so high because it's literally all he could do. Those two other gus could obviously do it but used the ability to benefit them all around and expand and refine their game.

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                            • BossMyShiiUp24
                              Ready for whatever
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 369

                              #74
                              i really hope he comes to the niners
                              25-4 Madden online record


                              Freestyle player if you want some

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                              • Senser81
                                VSN Poster of the Year
                                • Feb 2009
                                • 12804

                                #75
                                Originally posted by J.Hen
                                So teams didnt spend extra time game planning exclusively for Vick?
                                All you have is anecdotal BS. Vick is a disgrace. Vick was an average QB at best, and only because of his running ability. The Falcons would probably have been better off not having Vick as their 'franchise QB'.

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