NFC East Position Rankings: Running Back

[dboy_dc]

You can't seriously believe the cowboys have the best rushing offense in the east. their the only team to not have a single RB reach 1,000 yards EVER

Ever? seriously? Dallas is known for having 1000 yard backs.... Barber missed it 2 years ago by 25 yards. Barber and Jones was both injured last year and Choice wasnt going to make 1000 yards in 3 games.

Seriously?

[Maestro]

Ever? seriously? Dallas is known for having 1000 yard backs.... Barber missed it 2 years ago by 25 yards. Barber and Jones was both injured last year and Choice wasnt going to make 1000 yards in 3 games.

Seriously?

Key word missed it, and Barber only missed 3 games this year.

[corbin]

#1 - Giants

502Att
2,518Yds
5.OYPC
19TDs

#2 - Redskins

478Att
2,095Yds
4.4YPC
12TDs

#3 - Cowboys

401Att
1,723Yds
4.3YPC
12TDs

#4 - Eagles

427Att
1,697Yds
4.0YPC
15TDs

Seriously how can anyone argue the top spot? The Giants easily have the best offensive line in the division, some may say the best in the league. And you better forget about stopping Jacobs on the goaline, you are only going to get yourself hurt.

I think the Redskins could see a drop off in the run game next season. Portis in his last 5 games had an abysmal 2.9 YPC with only a pair of touchdowns. You can blame it on injuries, offensive line problems, or even Portis but facts are facts and the Redskins running game couldn't get it done during crunch time last year.

Cowboys running game should be in the top 5 NFC next year if all things go well and injuries don't hold them back once again. With a bunch of big bruising offensive lineman and a triple headed dragon in the backfield, they may have the highest ceiling of the bunch. But you know how the Boys are.. will they EVER live up to their potential? Probably not.

With the Eagles, its simple for me, I don't trust Westbrook to go a whole season nor do I trust Andy Reid to get him the ball in the right situations. I'm also not on the bandwagon for McCoy, he has to prove he can play against NFL defenses before I consider him a legit threat.

[Argath]

Ever? seriously? Dallas is known for having 1000 yard backs.... Barber missed it 2 years ago by 25 yards. Barber and Jones was both injured last year and Choice wasnt going to make 1000 yards in 3 games.

Seriously?

Barber missed the 1000 yard mark by 25 yards because he was the BACKUP running back two seasons ago. Barber didn't have great stats this past season because he played hurt throughout the entire year. He had a rib injury in week 1. In November, he had a toe injury that affected his play for the rest of the season. You saw how Tomlinson has been affected by toe injuries. It's a very serious issue for running backs. Marion Barber waited until the end of the season to have surgery done to repair the damage. As you know, Felix Jones had a season ending injury last season after starting off fabulously with a an average of 9 yards per carry. Choice didn't get extended time playing until the Steelers game in December. Therefore, I think it's unfair to judge the Dallas running backs for not having 1000 yard seasons. They really haven't had the chance to exceed.

Now, I'm not saying the Cowboys running backs are better than the rest of the NFC East. I think as a unit, they are better off than the Redskins and Eagles, but not the Giants. When you look at a team's running game, having one great running back really doesn't cut it anymore. Clinton Portis is better than any running back Dallas has; however, the depth clearly favors Dallas' talented "Earth, Wind, & Fire 2.0." Brian Westbrook is probably the best overall running back in the division. It's too early to say Lesean McCoy will have a substantial impact, but I can be persuaded that the Eagles' run game is better than Dallas' because of their Offensive Line being better than Dallas'. The Giants are definitely going to rely on the running game this year with their tandem of Jacobs and Bradshaw, because of their lack of proven receivers. With their amazing Offensive Line, I can see the Giants being in the top 3 in rushing this year without a doubt.

Flame on :2thumbs:

Um Yes, seriously. Look at the stats kid. Not one of the RBs on their roster has EVER reached 1,000 yards. I don't care if he missed by 1 yard, he still did not reach 1,000 yards.

Enough with the bullshit "Oh he was injured!" Clinton Portis played with second-degree MCL Sprain for the final 5 games of last season. Injuries are a part of the game. Saying someone "could have been great if he weren't injured" is complete bullshit. If you want to say that, then Charles Rogers was the best WR in the league during his first 3 seasons. I mean, seriously, how can you be the top in your division if you can't go a full NFL season? The fact that the cowboys RB corps cannot stay healthy is just another point why they are not the best in the East. You can have all the talent in the world, doesn't mean shit if your just sitting on the sideline.

Also, I like how you mention Felix Jones would have been great if he hadn't been injured because he average 9 yards a carry on just 30 (THIRTY) attempts through 6 (SIX) games. If he was really that good, he'd get more than just 5 attempts a game. When he has more than 200 attempts in a season, then lets see if he can keep up his 9 yards a carry. I mean, shit, Clinton Portis had 342 attempts, more than 10 times that of Felix Jones and still averaged 4.3 yards.

The Cowboys RBs are nothing but potential. The Redskins RBs have proved they can compete in the league. To say the Cowboys RBs even come close to the skins is a complete and total joke. Barber played in 15 games (Though he only started 13) and couldn't eclipse 1,000 yards. Betts, our BACKUP RB, eclipsed 1,000 yards in just 9 games in a previous season.

Do they have the potential to be good? Yes. Are they good right now? No. They have not proven they are a top tier RB corps yet. All they have proven is that they are injury prone and not one of them can play a full NFL season. Potential means next to nothing in the NFL. Ryan Leaf "had potential." Alex Smith "Had potential." Mike Williams (The WR) "had potential."

[dboy_dc]

#1 - Giants

502Att
2,518Yds
5.OYPC
19TDs

#2 - Redskins

478Att
2,095Yds
4.4YPC
12TDs

#3 - Cowboys

401Att
1,723Yds
4.3YPC
12TDs

#4 - Eagles

427Att
1,697Yds
4.0YPC
15TDs

Okay the Giants had "100" more attempts than Dallas gained between 700-800 more yards, gained only 7 more TD's and YPC was higher... Damn if Dallas ran the Ball more

The Redskins had roughly 80 more carries than Dallas, so they had roughly 400 more yards and TD's were the same... also they averaged ".1" more YPC than Dallas... If Only Dallas Ran the Ball More


The Eagles Ran the ball roughly 30 more times than Dallas and didnt get more yards than Dallas despite this fact Dallas was roughly 30 yards ahead of Philly. Also Philly had 3 more TD's than Dallas.... Damn if Dallas ran the ball more....


I'm not exactly arguing with you but more so the second person in this post....

Um Yes, seriously. Look at the stats kid. Not one of the RBs on their roster has EVER reached 1,000 yards. I don't care if he missed by 1 yard, he still did not reach 1,000 yards.

Are we judging the RB corp or them as individuals? Also if a RB gets 1001 yards and the other gets 998 that doesnt mean the one with 1001 is better like you're trying to claim. That's dumb as hell. Also look at the Cowboys Roster... Felix is in his 2nd year now and Choice is now in his 2nd year. If Felix went on IR and Choice played 3 games and they were rookies of course they wont have anybody with 1000 yards dumbass. Barber missed it but he's the only seasoned vet RB on the team. That was a stupid comment.


Enough with the bullshit "Oh he was injured!" Clinton Portis played with second-degree MCL Sprain for the final 5 games of last season. Injuries are a part of the game. Saying someone "could have been great if he weren't injured" is complete bullshit. If you want to say that, then Charles Rogers was the best WR in the league during his first 3 seasons. I mean, seriously, how can you be the top in your division if you can't go a full NFL season? The fact that the cowboys RB corps cannot stay healthy is just another point why they are not the best in the East. You can have all the talent in the world, doesn't mean shit if your just sitting on the sideline.

Also, I like how you mention Felix Jones would have been great if he hadn't been injured because he average 9 yards a carry on just 30 (THIRTY) attempts through 6 (SIX) games. If he was really that good, he'd get more than just 5 attempts a game. When he has more than 200 attempts in a season, then lets see if he can keep up his 9 yards a carry. I mean, shit, Clinton Portis had 342 attempts, more than 10 times that of Felix Jones and still averaged 4.3 yards.

Seriously? He didn't even get to touch the ball that first game against the Redskins... Why? Becuz TO was crying about not getting the ball despite him being thrown the ball 20-25 times a game. So Felix did not get all the touches he could. Also with Garrett not knowing exactly what to do with him.... And aint you the same person that says "I Dont Care, 1000 yards is a 1000 yards." So if Felix got 1000 yards on 100 attempts what would you say about that? I bet you'd still be talking shit.

The Cowboys RBs are nothing but potential. The Redskins RBs have proved they can compete in the league. To say the Cowboys RBs even come close to the skins is a complete and total joke. Barber played in 15 games (Though he only started 13) and couldn't eclipse 1,000 yards. Betts, our BACKUP RB, eclipsed 1,000 yards in just 9 games in a previous season.

When you have a subpar QB chances are you'll run the ball more. and that's what they did... Dumb comment.

Do they have the potential to be good? Yes. Are they good right now? No. They have not proven they are a top tier RB corps yet. All they have proven is that they are injury prone and not one of them can play a full NFL season. Potential means next to nothing in the NFL. Ryan Leaf "had potential." Alex Smith "Had potential." Mike Williams (The WR) "had potential."

Okay the only 2 corps that has vets are the Giants and Redskins. Dallas and Philly are working with more so rookies. If Jacobs goes down so does the Running game for NY. If Westbrook goes down so does the Running game for Philly. Betts has shown up in place of Portis :2thumbs: but for you to say Dallas aint shit and they got what they got with injuries on the O-Line and with 2 of their main RB's... Please shut the Fuck up! I'm done with you.

[mgoblue2290]

Okay the only 2 corps that has vets are the Giants and Redskins. Dallas and Philly are working with more so rookies. If Jacobs goes down so does the Running game for NY. If Westbrook goes down so does the Running game for Philly. Betts has shown up in place of Portis :2thumbs: but for you to say Dallas aint shit and they got what they got with injuries on the O-Line and with 2 of their main RB's... Please shut the Fuck up! I'm done with you.

If Barber goes down for the year I'm willing to bet the Dallas run game goes with him. Jones had a lot of success because teams prepared for Barber to grind it out between the tackles. If Jones was the feature back, it'd be a lot harder for him to have the success he had when he played in those couple games. Every single team has injuries, you deal with it. There are no asterisks on a running back's stats because his offensive line wasn't healthy, that just how it works.

Also, Dallas didn't run the ball more so quit talking all this hypothetical bullshit. Every team has big ifs every season, but the 2008 season is over. When you figure out who the best players are, usually you use what they've accomplished, not what they could accomplish. All that matters is what happened, not what would've happened if Dallas had 50 more rushing attempts, they didn't. Quit talking about what could've happened, we realize the Cowboys are the GOAT every year on paper.

[kmanharris]

It seems that his articles always cause so much shit because he puts Dallas at the top. Coming from a Cowboys fan we do not have the best running back combo in the East. That belongs to New York. We do have more depth than the Eagles and Redskins (even though their number 1 back is better than any one of our backs). I would still say Dallas is 2nd is depth and 3rd/4th (if we are talking about just running the ball then Dallas is 3rd but if we are talking about running, blocking, catching then Dallas is 4th behind the Eagles imo)

[Argath]

El Oh Fucking El at this thread.



Great Job cowboys. Another successful year rushing just like you said it would be!


Oh wait, once again no 1,000 yard rushers.

[Argath]

Washington Redskins

Clinton Portis - 494 yards, 124 attempts, 4.0 avg, 1 TD
Rock Cartwright - 228 yards, 64 attempts, 3.6 avg, 0 TD
Quinton Ganther - 201 yards, 62 attempts, 3.2 avg, 3 TD
Ladell Betts - 210 yards, 56 attempts, 3.8 avg, 2 TD


Combined: 1133 yards, 306 attempts, 3.7 avg, 6 TD



Philadelphia Eagles

Lesean McCoy - 637 yards, 155 attempts, 4.1 avg, 4 TD
Leonard Weaver - 323 yards, 70 attempts, 4.6 avg, 2 TD
Brian Westbrook - 274 yards, 61 attempts, 4.5 avg, 1 TD


Combined: 1234 yards, 286 attempts, 4.3 avg, 7 TD


New York Giants

Brandon Jacobs - 835 yards, 224 attempts, 3.7 avg, 5 TD
Ahmad Bradshaw - 778 yards, 163 attempts, 4.8 avg, 7 TD

Combined: 1613 yards, 387 attempts, 4.2 avg, 12 TD


Dallas Cowboys

Marion Barber - 932 yards, 214 attempts, 4.4 avg, 7 TD
Felix Jones - 685 yards, 116 attempts, 5.9 avg, 3 TD
Tashard Choice - 349 yards, 64 attempts, 5.5 avg, 3 TD

Combined: 1966 yards, 394 attempts, 5.0 avg, 13 TD


Let's see. More yards on more attempts, MUCH higher rushing average, AND led the NFC East in rushing touchdowns.

Argath needs to shut the FUCK up. There wasn't a single 1,000 yard rusher in the NFC East this season and don't EVEN fucking dare come around saying, "yeah, well Portis would have had his nice 1000 yard chunk this year had he been healthy and yada yada yada I keep talking bullshit out my mouth."

Remember, injuries are all part of the game.

We get it. You hate the fucking Cowboys and you're pissed that your panties are twisted in a fucking knot over the mess that Daniel Snyder has made of your beloved racially-named team.

I'm still waiting on those dominant Cowboys rushers everyone was bragging about. All those potential 1,000 yard rushers really are living up to their potential aren't they?


It's funny, you use injuries as an excuse for the cowboys terrible running last year, now this year the skins have injuries and you say "oh injuries are part of the game." I mean, I could go on to say we had 4 different RB's starting at different points this year and, of course, 11 different starters among the oline. Not to mention the practice squad players we had starting at various times in the year.


I never said anything about the redskins rushers, I knew we blew dick this year. Hell, our whole fucking team blew dick. We didn't have one single stand-out player who had even a remotely good year. But that doesn't change the fact that the cowboys RB's are mediocre at best.




I stand by the fact, the cowboys do not have a RB on their roster who has reached 1,000 yards in one season yet. I'm sure you guys will get there with all that potential though!




Edit: Oh wait, I forgot to mention the Redskins didn't have as many carries as the cowboys! Surely the redskins would have surpassed the cowboys if they had the same amount of carries!

Okay the Giants had "100" more attempts than Dallas gained between 700-800 more yards, gained only 7 more TD's and YPC was higher... Damn if Dallas ran the Ball more

The Redskins had roughly 80 more carries than Dallas, so they had roughly 400 more yards and TD's were the same... also they averaged ".1" more YPC than Dallas... If Only Dallas Ran the Ball More


The Eagles Ran the ball roughly 30 more times than Dallas and didnt get more yards than Dallas despite this fact Dallas was roughly 30 yards ahead of Philly. Also Philly had 3 more TD's than Dallas.... Damn if Dallas ran the ball more....

[Rayman]

El Oh Fucking El at this thread.



Great Job cowboys. Another successful year rushing just like you said it would be!


Oh wait, once again no 1,000 yard rushers.

Massive fail

[Esjay]

Since when do you need a 1000 yard rusher to be a good rushing team? The Cowboys have 3 good backs, all perfectly capable of rushing for 1000 yards should they get enough carries.

[Senser81]

Since when do you need a 1000 yard rusher to be a good rushing team? The Cowboys have 3 good backs, all perfectly capable of rushing for 1000 yards should they get enough carries.

Yeah, Argath the Failath's timing with this thread is the same as Killa Pand calling Josh McDaniels' season a success after Denver's season-ending loss to KC.