The reason why NCAA College Football is a joke

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  • Esjay
    Luck2Hilton
    • Feb 2009
    • 2328

    #16
    So 1 team in the past 25 years has lost the first game of the season and won the national title .. and? That probably has something to do with the team not being good enough to win the title. It's a lot easier to lose your first game and then get back into the discussion than it is to lose a game in the middle of the season like Oklahoma did last year, Florida a few years back, etc.

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    • Bear Pand
      RIP Indy Colts
      • Feb 2009
      • 5945

      #17
      Originally posted by Chodite
      Only one team has lost their first game and won the national championship in the last 25 years.
      Most of the teams good enough to win a NC don't schedule tough games as their first game. They schedule schools like northwest idaho city college.

      Real reason college football sucks is the preseason polls.

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      • LiquidLarry2GhostWF
        Highwayman
        • Feb 2009
        • 15428

        #18
        I am not sure correlating one team winning a national championship game after losing their very first game in the last 25 years makes their rationale for crowning a championship flawed.

        It is flawed, but that isn't the reason why.

        Should Oklahoma go undefeated the rest of the way, win their conference...they'll play in the title game barring some other team having a more impressive resume. Now, if they win the championship game, there breaks your streak. If they lose the title game...uh...I guess we're at 26 years?

        Makey no sense.

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        • JeremyHight
          I wish I was Scrubs
          • Feb 2009
          • 4063

          #19
          ... isn't the fact that a team has lost its first game and still won the national championship proof that it can happen?

          Obviously, you are going to need some help and to be strong the rest of the season, but of course you are going to need that when you start out at a disadvantage.

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          • Goober
            Needs a hobby
            • Feb 2009
            • 12270

            #20
            Originally posted by Chodite
            I didn't throw out any analysis, just fact. Lost the first game of the season and your season is finished.

            And I wouldn't exactly put a team like BYU in the same category as Portland State.
            It's probably safe to say Oklahoma won't play in the championship game this year, but that has more to do with their starting QB being hurt, then it has to do with the loss to BYU.

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            • Sharkweather
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2009
              • 8906

              #21
              Just my opinion but that is why I love college football so much. You cant let up against anyone, you have to get up for every opponent or your season is most likely done. None of that sitting your best players stuff when you have a playoff berth wrapped up.

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              • Nukleopatra
                Posts a lot
                • Nov 2008
                • 4365

                #22
                Originally posted by Bmore
                Basically what he is trying to say is... "HAHAHAHAHAHAHA OKLAHOMA CHOKED! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!".

                /thread
                Are you related to Gilbert?

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                • shag773
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 2721

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Chodite
                  Lose the first game of the season - your season is done.

                  In the last 25 years, only one college football team has won a NCAA Div. 1 National Championship after losing their first game (University of Miami).

                  Discuss.
                  But how many have played for the NC with one loss?

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                  • riley420
                    You're goddamned right.
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 2331

                    #24
                    Florida lost their 4th game of the season last year, so what?

                    If Michigan had won the NC after losing to Appalachian State...what sort of chaos would that have caused?

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                    • Senser81
                      VSN Poster of the Year
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 12804

                      #25
                      Originally posted by riley420
                      If Michigan had won the NC after losing to Appalachian State...what sort of chaos would that have caused?
                      Quite a bit, because weren't they like 3-9 or something?

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                      • gaysex4lif
                        No longer a noob
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 1476

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Senser81
                        Quite a bit, because weren't they like 3-9 or something?
                        9-4 and won in the Capital One Bowl against Florida.

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                        • Derrville
                          Dallas has no coaching...
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 5321

                          #27
                          NCAA sucks the cock of the Sooners, so dont worry about them.

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                          • Senser81
                            VSN Poster of the Year
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 12804

                            #28
                            Originally posted by buck
                            9-4 and won in the Capital One Bowl against Florida.
                            You are a loser.

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                            • St. Francisco
                              45-35 Never Forget
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 4753

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Chodite
                              Lose the first game of the season - your season is done.

                              In the last 25 years, only one college football team has won a NCAA Div. 1 National Championship after losing their first game (University of Miami).

                              Discuss.
                              Originally posted by Chodite
                              Only one team has lost their first game and won the national championship in the last 25 years.
                              Originally posted by Chodite
                              The method of determining a national champion is a joke. Though, that's not news to most folks. I never said college football sucks. This just further proves the point that the system is flawed. Lose the first game of the season = season over.

                              Div 1 of course. Div II has a playoff system.
                              Originally posted by Chodite
                              I didn't throw out any analysis, just fact. Lost the first game of the season and your season is finished.

                              And I wouldn't exactly put a team like BYU in the same category as Portland State.
                              Listen...I am probably the biggest advocate on these boards for an FBS playoff system, but your argument is retarded. That's like saying, "No team on the west coast has ever won a national championship when they lose in week three". Who cares...it's a stupid statistic that doesn't accurately reflect the current system. College football doesn't have a preseason, so the majority of national title contenders use the opening few weeks of the season as a warm-up for the rest of their schedule. So when we take that into consideration...of course only one team has done it, because a team that loses to a vastly inferior opponent almost always has flaws that will lead to even more losses that season.

                              One loss does not kill your national title hopes...it just injures them severely. If BYU were to finish the year with one or two losses, Oklahoma finished with just that one loss (meaning they beat high-ranking schools like Texas and Okie St.), and no one else finished undefeated, the Sooners would most certainly be in talks for the national title. After all, they'd have quality wins under their belt, and their only loss would be a season opener against a solid ranked team.

                              So, to recap, a loss in week one doesn't hurt your chances any more than a loss in any other week...in fact, the BEST time to lose a game (if you have to lose) is in week one. People have short memories, and you have more time to climb back up the rankings.

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                              • gaysex4lif
                                No longer a noob
                                • Oct 2008
                                • 1476

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Senser81
                                You are a loser.
                                Cus I'm a college football fan? lol

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