Brett Favre's career from 2007 - present

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  • bucky
    #50? WTF?
    • Feb 2009
    • 5408

    #16
    Originally posted by Moneyman
    I'll give Brett Favre some credit, yesterday, he looked terrifc.
    He was laser sharp last night. GB got NO pressure on him. Yet I think Rodgers fared very well amongst all the pressure he faced. I really think that if you give Rodgers an average (doesn't even need to be good or above average) OL and running game, he will be one of the best in the league. I was amazed at what he did last night.

    Originally posted by Moneyman
    This year, and last year, he had something GB really never had, and that is a running back.
    True. The running game has been a disappointment.

    Originally posted by Moneyman
    Green Bay really never had that dominating running back like what Favre has right now.
    Ahman Green? Levens?


    Originally posted by Moneyman
    I still think Minneasota is a BIT better then Green Bay, but we'll see how Favre does in week 10 and beyond.
    I think so too. I think Chicago is a bit better as well. F'n painful to say as a GB fan.

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    • ram29jackson
      Noob
      • Nov 2008
      • 0

      #17
      As a team QB, he may not be considered great because he is blamed for play off losses.

      But most of this thread is pointless to say anything ,other than, individually,among QBs

      Brett Favre IS the greatest of all time statisticly -period-

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      • KINGOFOOTBALL
        Junior Member
        • Feb 2009
        • 10343

        #18
        1. Favre was never in a position when he "had" to throw the ball. Hes always had a good compliment of backs , along with a short passing game. Brett Favre having to carry things is overstated , he played like the whole thing was on his shoulders which it wasnt. Numerous games , and far too many in the playoffs were lost because of that mentality.

        2. 1.1 to .75 is a mile and a half when your comparing the cream of the crop and trying to seperate the greatests of all time. Everything is magnified. You have a guy who rarely turned the ball over was as efficient and great under pressure as anyone ever....low and behold he has 4 rings to the "gun slingers" 1. It makes a difference.
        Best reason to have a license.

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        • MrBill
          Billy Brewer Sucks Penis
          • Feb 2009
          • 0

          #19
          Originally posted by KINGOFOOTBALL
          1. Favre was never in a position when he "had" to throw the ball. Hes always had a good compliment of backs , along with a short passing game. Brett Favre having to carry things is overstated , he played like the whole thing was on his shoulders which it wasnt. Numerous games , and far too many in the playoffs were lost because of that mentality.
          Name me one other HOF player on the offensive side of the ball for the Packers during the Favre era. Being a serviceable RB is good for the regular season but it takes more than that to get yards on a playoff caliber defense. Elway and Marino are two other QB's that lacked a complimentary player on offense but at least Elway had Terrell Davis' help to win his 2 Superbowls and Davis would have been a lock for the HOF if injury hadn't ended his career prematurely.

          Originally posted by KINGOFOOTBALL
          2. 1.1 to .75 is a mile and a half when your comparing the cream of the crop and trying to seperate the greatests of all time. Everything is magnified. You have a guy who rarely turned the ball over was as efficient and great under pressure as anyone ever....low and behold he has 4 rings to the "gun slingers" 1. It makes a difference.
          Rings are a team achievement and by that logic, Terry Bradshaw is as good as Joe Montana. Favre has 3 MVP's if you want to compare individual achievements outside of records.

          I still think Montana was the GOAT but Favre is legitimately part of the discussion and a strong case can be made on his behalf.

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          • jags224
            El Contusion
            • Oct 2008
            • 3780

            #20
            top 5
            "From the time he hits the court, he plays at a competitive level that you rarely see," Popovich says. "He does the exact same things that Kobe (Bryant) does, that Michael Jordan did.

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            • KINGOFOOTBALL
              Junior Member
              • Feb 2009
              • 10343

              #21
              Originally posted by MrBill
              Name me one other HOF player on the offensive side of the ball for the Packers during the Favre era. Being a serviceable RB is good for the regular season but it takes more than that to get yards on a playoff caliber defense. Elway and Marino are two other QB's that lacked a complimentary player on offense but at least Elway had Terrell Davis' help to win his 2 Superbowls and Davis would have been a lock for the HOF if injury hadn't ended his career prematurely.
              I wasnt aware it required HOFers to spread the ball around or achieve a balanced attack , let alone play within the system. Interesting that Elway went to 3 superbowls with no complimentary players , Favre 2. I guess Elway IS the better QB.



              Originally posted by MrBill
              Rings are a team achievement and by that logic, Terry Bradshaw is as good as Joe Montana. Favre has 3 MVP's if you want to compare individual achievements outside of records.

              I still think Montana was the GOAT but Favre is legitimately part of the discussion and a strong case can be made on his behalf.
              Did you even read what I said or did you just start smashing the keyboard ?
              Best reason to have a license.

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              • ram29jackson
                Noob
                • Nov 2008
                • 0

                #22
                haha , lets not forget he has beaten every team in a 32 team league !

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                • Juggernaut
                  Sitting on the Sidelines
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 5670

                  #23
                  Brett's the man

                  Hopefully he'll be the first 40 year old qb to win a playoff game.

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                  • bucky
                    #50? WTF?
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 5408

                    #24
                    Originally posted by MrBill
                    Name me one other HOF player on the offensive side of the ball for the Packers during the Favre era. Being a serviceable RB is good for the regular season but it takes more than that to get yards on a playoff caliber defense
                    Ahman Green? 1800+ yards? Serviceable? Get your head out of your backside. Brett threw too many playoff ending ints to be considered GOAT.

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                    • DJ Fog
                      Posts a lot
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 3634

                      #25
                      Just wait till week 10 when he's tired and throws 5 picks a week from then on out.
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                      • MrBill
                        Billy Brewer Sucks Penis
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 0

                        #26
                        Originally posted by bucky
                        Ahman Green? 1800+ yards? Serviceable? Get your head out of your backside. Brett threw too many playoff ending ints to be considered GOAT.
                        Ahman Green was good but I was referring to the lack of HoF players on offense that everyone else on the GOAT list had around them (Favre had none). Green fumbled way too much to be going to the HoF. For the record, I still have Montana as the GOAT but believe a strong case can be made for Favre, Elway and Marino.

                        Originally posted by maddog6631
                        Just wait till week 10 when he's tired and throws 5 picks a week from then on out.
                        Even with a torn biceps tendon, Favre led the Jets to twice as many wins as they had the season before. That whole team had a meltdown last December, not just the QB.

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                        • DJ Fog
                          Posts a lot
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 3634

                          #27
                          Originally posted by MrBill



                          Even with a torn biceps tendon, Favre led the Jets to twice as many wins as they had the season before. That whole team had a meltdown last December, not just the QB.

                          Not for nothing, as someone who actually watched every Jet game.. that meltdown had one clear leader of it, and his name was Favre. His passing skills were atrocious by the end of the year to the point he was under-throwing 15 yard passes.


                          I won't lie, it's tough to lose a bit of a Jet fan bias about Favre after the promising hope we all had after watching the start of the year. It was exciting to watch the Jets again, and as much as he brought up the Jets, he only brought them down.


                          Against the Vikings on Monday, Favre looked incredible. He's been doing great all season thus far, and has had one hell of a career. People do pick on his INT totals, but Favre has balls (no homo), and its part of why he's gotten so many yards and TDs throughout his career.

                          If he keep it up this season, the Vikings become deep playoff contenders. Time will tell.
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                          • Bmore
                            The True Free-Man
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 6256

                            #28
                            Originally posted by MrBill
                            Ahman Green was good but I was referring to the lack of HoF players on offense that everyone else on the GOAT list had around them (Favre had none). Green fumbled way too much to be going to the HoF. For the record, I still have Montana as the GOAT but believe a strong case can be made for Favre, Elway and Marino.



                            Even with a torn biceps tendon, Favre led the Jets to twice as many wins as they had the season before. That whole team had a meltdown last December, not just the QB.
                            Mark Chumra? Antonio Freeman? Sterling Sharpe?

                            Favre had Sterling up to 1995.
                            Then he had Antonio Freeman till 2000.
                            Donald Driver till he left the packers.

                            Put on top of those 3 lights out receivers, the awesome offensive line the Packers had all the way up to last year. Not to mention a real good running game, his whole career in Greenbay.

                            1. Johnny U.
                            2. Montanna
                            3. Favre


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                            • bucky
                              #50? WTF?
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 5408

                              #29
                              Originally posted by MrBill
                              Ahman Green was good but I was referring to the lack of HoF players on offense that everyone else on the GOAT list had around them (Favre had none).
                              Green was a beast running the ball and as a receiver out of the back field, HOF or not. Brett still had a GREAT running game behind him, w/ a dominating OL.

                              Originally posted by MrBill
                              Green fumbled way too much to be going to the HoF. For the record, I still have Montana as the GOAT but believe a strong case can be made for Favre, Elway and Marino.
                              Knock Green for his fumbles, but excuse Brett for playoff ending ints. Typical.


                              Originally posted by MrBill
                              Even with a torn biceps tendon, Favre led the Jets to twice as many wins as they had the season before. That whole team had a meltdown last December, not just the QB.
                              Ignore the other big changes NYJ's made during that off season.

                              You credit Brett for all the successes and blame everyone else for the failures. I'll give Brett credit, and also blame.

                              He's HOF. One of the greatest, but not close to GOAT. Far too many playoff brain farts.

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                              • MrBill
                                Billy Brewer Sucks Penis
                                • Feb 2009
                                • 0

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Bmore
                                Mark Chumra? Antonio Freeman? Sterling Sharpe?

                                Favre had Sterling up to 1995.
                                Then he had Antonio Freeman till 2000.
                                Donald Driver till he left the packers.
                                Again, I said HoF players. Sharpe potentially would have made the HoF but Favre actually became a better player after he left because he started to spread the ball around. When Sharpe was there, he was reads 1-3 before looking to somebody else. None of those other guys even sniff the HoF with their level of production.

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