Enough is enough. Peyton Manning is the greatest QB of all time.

[Archer]

While adding onto this

Manning in his 2008 MVP season

V the AFC South

1,465 Yards 11td 5int 99.9 P/R

Outside of Division

2,537 Yards 16td 7int 92.5 P/R


2004 MVP Season

V the AFC South

1,885 Yards 17td 5int 121.2 P/R

Outside of Division

2,672 Yards 32td 5int 121.1 P/R



2003 MVP Season

V the AFC South

1,453 Yards 9td 4int 94.0 P/R

Outside of Division

2,814 yards 20td 6int 101.8 P/R

[JeremyHight]

Please, you want to discredit his GOAT status based on 15 specific games out of the 181 games he has played in. Again: child, please.

So you are telling me his performance against the hands down best teams in the NFL that year should be set aside to see how he did against the Cincinatti's and Detroit's of the NFL? Since when did we judge how good QBs were based on how muh they blew out Houston by as opposed to how they did against New England or Pittsburgh when everything is on the line?

[Woy]

We play the south 6 out of 16 games in the regular season . You're saying he only has 6 good games per season? LOL .

2008 - Titans 13-3, Colts 12-4
2007 - Colts 12-4, Jaguars 11-5, Titans 10-6
2005 - Colts 14-2, Jaguars 12-4
2004 - Colts 12-4, Jaguars 9-7
2003 - Colts 12-4, Titans 12-4
2002 - Titans 11-5, Colts 10-6

Unlike some other divisions (AFC/NFC West), the Colts usually have at least one team in their division that is competing for the crown. He just beats the AFC South because he's that good, not because the division is weak (besides Houston, who haven't posed a threat to them yet).

[Senser81]

I'm with this cat.

I thought Lefty34 was white?

[Houston]

So you are telling me his performance against the hands down best teams in the NFL that year should be set aside to see how he did against the Cincinatti's and Detroit's of the NFL? Since when did we judge how good QBs were based on how muh they blew out Houston by as opposed to how they did against New England or Pittsburgh when everything is on the line?

hey hey hey leave Houston out of this.

[killgod]

Please, you want to discredit his GOAT status based on 15 specific games out of the 181 games he has played in. Again: child, please.

You do know there's GOAT candidate's that have shown excellence when the pressure is upon them to deliver, right? Not just in the regular season, right?


Then again, I'm aruging with a bunch of Colt fans, some admitting to not knowing football prior to his career, disregarding his playoff game performance as IRRELEVANT on the basis of his defense sucking, so this is a waste of fucking time.



John Elway > Peyton Manning.
Joe Montana > Peyton Manning.
Johnny Unitas > Peyton Manning


There's still time, but that trio is still beyond Manning if you don't have your fucking homer glasses on.


You guys can continue to suck each other off over this but I'm not the one boasting an above average playoff QB that plays for my own team as the GOAT.

Peace out to this shit.

[I LastWish I]

Dan Marino hands down. What other NFL QB has been in a movie with Jim Carey?

[Archer]

You do know there's GOAT candidate's that have shown excellence when the pressure is upon them to deliver, right? Not just in the regular season, right?


Then again, I'm aruging with a bunch of Colt fans, some admitting to not knowing football prior to his career, disregarding his playoff game performance as IRRELEVANT on the basis of his defense sucking, so this is a waste of fucking time.



John Elway > Peyton Manning.
Joe Montana > Peyton Manning.
Johnny Unitas > Peyton Manning


There's still time, but that trio is still beyond Manning if you don't have your fucking homer glasses on.


You guys can continue to suck each other off over this but I'm not the one boasting an above average playoff QB that plays for my own team as the GOAT.

Peace out to this shit.

Don't you have incorrect comments to be making?

Manning is the GOAT cause he can thrash the previously weak AFC South year in and year out,

[Houston]

John Elway > Peyton Manning.
Joe Montana > Peyton Manning.
Johnny Unitas > Peyton Manning

Only thing is Peyton Manning is still playing and has some more years left to get under his belt.

;)

It'll only get better.

[killgod]

Can't help myself

...because those games only account for about 8% of his career. It's not right to discredit a player or what he has done because of a percentage (and sample size) that small, just as it would be wrong to use a sample size that small to say that a player is great or is the best.

Maybe because those 8% of games held far more importance than the other 92%?

Maybe because fantasy football championships he might have won you don't count for anything in the NFL?

Maybe because post season success > regular season success? Not just Wins, but actually PEFORMING at a high level? A level ELITE players would perform at when it matters most?

Don't you have incorrect comments to be making?

I was incorrect in saying Manning thrashed the AFC South? He didn't?

You're the one that expanded that sentence and suggested I meant he was only good in 6 games per year. I didn't say that did I? I generalized he dominates in a softer division, didn't comment on anything else or suggest anything else. You're the one putting words in my mouth and calling me incorrect.

But this invalidates everything else I've said?

Gotta love forum poster logic.

Even if you could find something wrong, it means everything else must be wrong.





Do any of you Colt fans have a legitmate argument as to why he's greater than guys who can SHOW UP in January? Outside of "the colts defence sucks", "rings mean nothing", "regular season dominace > all" or "I only know football since 96"..........or any other illogical BS?

[Archer]

Can't help myself



Maybe because those 8% of games held far more importance than the other 92%?

Maybe because fantasy football championships he might have won you don't count for anything in the NFL?

Maybe because post season success > regular season success? Not just Wins, but actually PEFORMING at a high level? A level ELITE players would perform at when it matters most?





I was incorrect in saying Manning thrashed the AFC South? He didn't?

You're the one that expanded that sentence and suggested I meant he was only good in 6 games per year. I didn't say that did I? I generalized he dominates in a softer division, didn't comment on anything else or suggest anything else. You're the one putting words in my mouth and calling me incorrect.

But this invalidates everything else I've said?

Gotta love forum poster logic.

Even if you could find something wrong, it means everything else must be wrong.





Do any of you Colt fans have a legitmate argument as to why he's greater than guys who can SHOW UP in January? Outside of "the colts defence sucks", "rings mean nothing", "regular season dominace > all" or "I only know football since 96"..........or any other illogical BS?

I never said it meant your other comments less or more true but it sure as hell made it look like you were just hating on him in the same way you say people are just sucking his dick . He beat up on a softer division but you said "hes the GOAT because he beats up on it" when I proved by stats he beats up on teams outside of his division as much if not more than the AFC South

I don't know or care if he is the G.O.A.T . All I know is he is my QB and I am DAMN happy with him being that

[killgod]

I never said it meant your other comments less or more true but it sure as hell made it look like you were just hating on him in the same way you say people are just sucking his dick . He beat up on a softer division but you said "hes the GOAT because he beats up on it" when I proved by stats he beats up on teams outside of his division as much if not more than the AFC South

I don't know or care if he is the G.O.A.T . All I know is he is my QB and I am DAMN happy with him being that

I do hate Manning, I've always admitted that. I have plenty of reason to.

However, am I boasting Brady here at all? No. I'm level headed enough to know Brady is not the GOAT or in the GOAT discussion. I could probably make an argument for bottom 10, but that's not what we're discussing here.

That alone should prove I'm not saying Manning isn't the GOAT out of hatred, but with reason.

The reason is simple. The Greatest players of any position, in any sport, rise to the occasion when it's commanded of them. This is something he's not done very well.

Colts fans (in this thread) return fire with, well he's fucking king shit in the regular season and it's the defence's fault he loses (despite the defence being the key reason they made and won his only super bowl)

Well, was Montana/Elway/Unitas not dominant players in the regular season too? Yes, yes they were.

They also were elite players in the playoffs and super bowlS.


Ok. Now I'm done.

[Archer]

I do hate Manning, I've always admitted that. I have plenty of reason to.

However, am I boasting Brady here at all? No. I'm level headed enough to know Brady is not the GOAT or in the GOAT discussion. I could probably make an argument for bottom 10, but that's not what we're discussing here.

That alone should prove I'm not saying Manning isn't the GOAT out of hatred, but with reason.

The reason is simple. The Greatest players of any position, in any sport, rise to the occasion when it's commanded of them. This is something he's not done very well.

Colts fans (in this thread) return fire with, well he's fucking king shit in the regular season and it's the defence's fault he loses (despite the defence being the key reason they made and won his only super bowl)

Well, was Montana/Elway/Unitas not dominant players in the regular season too? Yes, yes they were.

They also were elite players in the playoffs and super bowlS.


Ok. Now I'm done.

Read the thread bro ... I have never once mentioned Brady

Manning has had troubles in the playoffs .... the stats show it . I can't argue with stats on paper

Were some/most his fault? Probably
Were some of them on the team aswell? Probably
Has Manning been the best regular season qb of this era? Yes he has
Can he do anything about them now ? No

I didn't come in here saying MANNING GOAT WOOOOOOOOO! because I don't know if he is . Infact I don't fucking CARE if he is . I know I wouldn't take another qb on the planet right now to quarterback my team . I know I have been lucky as shit to have a qb like him on my team instead of somebody like Jake Delhomme or another run of the mill quarterback .

[Esjay]

lol .. this thread is funny. killgod, take out your tampon. i think you're taking this a tad too serious. we get it, you hate manning. for that reason you will never give him his due, and any colts fan who thinks he's the greatest (which btw nearly everyone who replied that wasn't a colts fan said the same thing) is a homer and an idiot.

[killgod]

lol .. this thread is funny. killgod, take out your tampon. i think you're taking this a tad too serious. we get it, you hate manning. for that reason you will never give him his due, and any colts fan who thinks he's the greatest (which btw nearly everyone who replied that wasn't a colts fan said the same thing) is a homer and an idiot.

:doh:

I list 3 and only 3 QB's EVER (one of them being a fucking Colt to boot) above him and I'm not giving him his due?

Yes, you are a fucking homo.......I mean homer.