Intresting arctilce on Favre-Thompson situation

[Senser81]

No one is disagreeing with the fact that the loss should not be placed on Rodgers. Everyone knows it was the special teams and defense. I'm simply stating that, once again, Rodgers was not able to be a leader and step up when it's most important. Instead, he made a terrible pass that should have been a fairly simple completion, especially with a sure-handed Driver.

For the fourth time, are you going to cite any proof of these continued Rodgers failings? Of him not stepping up when its most important? For him to give his team a chance to win, he needed to go 87 yards in one minute. A tall order for any QB, even John Elway.

[Primetime]

For the fourth time, are you going to cite any proof of these continued Rodgers failings? Of him not stepping up when its most important? For him to give his team a chance to win, he needed to go 87 yards in one minute. A tall order for any QB, even John Elway.

To give his team a chance to win, he needed to make that pass. Had he made the fairly simple pass, they would have been on the 32-35 yard line with about 42 seconds left. They would have needed 30 yards to get to the 25-30 yards to get to the TB 40 and given them a chance to tie, and eventually win.

Rodgers has 1 TD this season in the 4th quarter and his passer rating is by far the worst in the 4th. In the last 2 minutes of a half last year, Rodgers had a passer rating of 69.4. This year so far, it's a 79.9 including 45.9% completion. Not the stats of a leader.

[Senser81]

To give his team a chance to win, he needed to make that pass.

Gee, ya think?

Had he made the fairly simple pass, they would have been on the 32-35 yard line with about 42 seconds left. They would have needed 30 yards to get to the 25-30 yards to get to the TB 40 and given them a chance to tie, and eventually win.

Still going with the fairly simple pass, eh? Other than that, there was nothing you said above that was in dispute. The Packers still needed to gain more yards in a limited time, and Crosby would need to hit a 57-yard FG, 4 yards longer than his career max. This only would have tied the game, then the Packers would have to win the game in OT.

Again, what is your point? Yes, it would have been nice for all this to happen. But the odds against it happening were quite large. About as large as the Packers giving up 31 points to Josh Freeman.

Rodgers has 1 TD this season in the 4th quarter and his passer rating is by far the worst in the 4th. In the last 2 minutes of a half last year, Rodgers had a passer rating of 69.4. This year so far, it's a 79.9 including 45.9% completion. Not the stats of a leader.

Nice list of the specific failings of an Aaron Rodgers. Remember that pass against the Bears? I guess that didn't count, since it was in OT and not in the last 2 minutes of a half.

[Primetime]

Still going with the fairly simple pass, eh? Other than that, there was nothing you said above that was in dispute. The Packers still needed to gain more yards in a limited time, and Crosby would need to hit a 57-yard FG, 4 yards longer than his career max. This only would have tied the game, then the Packers would have to win the game in OT.

Again, what is your point? Yes, it would have been nice for all this to happen. But the odds against it happening were quite large. About as large as the Packers giving up 31 points to Josh Freeman.



Nice list of the specific failings of an Aaron Rodgers. Remember that pass against the Bears? I guess that didn't count, since it was in OT and not in the last 2 minutes of a half.

All I've said is that Rodgers made a bad pass and that he didn't give his team the CHANCE to win. No one said anything about Crosby hitting a 57 yard field goal, I only stated Rodgers never gave him the chance. Of course the odds are stacked against it, but is it a better chance than what he actually did? Yes.

Did you want broad failings? You asked where, in the past, he's performed poorly in this situation and that is exactly what I gave you. I loved Rodgers pass to Jennings in OT, and it's those kinds of situations where most Packers fans want to see Rodgers be much more proficient in. Rodgers buckles under the pressure most often and the facts prove it, and the facts are better than an opinion.

[Senser81]

All I've said is that Rodgers made a bad pass and that he didn't give his team the CHANCE to win. No one said anything about Crosby hitting a 57 yard field goal, I only stated Rodgers never gave him the chance. Of course the odds are stacked against it, but is it a better chance than what he actually did? Yes.

Brilliant! Eli Manning should similarly be chastised, because he didn't give the Giants a chance to win at the end of the Chargers game. THAT should be the story, not the fact that Tom Coughlin coached the Giants with two hands on his throat.

Did you want broad failings? You asked where, in the past, he's performed poorly in this situation and that is exactly what I gave you. I loved Rodgers pass to Jennings in OT, and it's those kinds of situations where most Packers fans want to see Rodgers be much more proficient in. Rodgers buckles under the pressure most often and the facts prove it, and the facts are better than an opinion.

Are you serious? You gave me nothing. I asked you for specific situations, and you spouted off some 4th quarter stats from last year. You've got to be joking. Look at this game...I thought Rodgers had won the game with his incredible scramble on 3rd and goal, and the Packers defense/special teams pissed it away. It was the same in the Bengals game...I thought the Packers had done enough to win and Rodgers had played well, but the Packers D pissed the game away and Rodgers didn't have enough time for his last drive.

In the Packers losses this year, they've given up 31, 30, 38, and 38 points. And this is attributable to Rodgers buckling under pressure?

Here we are, at post #65...I think with your combination of thick-headedness and douchbaggery, we can top the century mark!

[Nukleopatra]

Aaron Rodgers was like 0-4 last season, when trailing after the 3rd quarter.

The only good team he beat last year, was Indy, and he didn't even break 200 yards passing. Unless, of course you consider a T. Jack lead Vikings team (lol,) who did make the playoffs, and he didn't break 200 yards passing in that game either. He then lost to Minnesota weeks later, when Minnesota had Gus Frerotte starting, where Aaron Rodgers threw a whopping 142 yards.

The best team Aaron Rodgers has beat this year? Jay Cutler and The Bears (lol @ Jay Cutler.)

He plays Dallas next week - a loss.

[Primetime]

Aaron Rodgers was like 0-4 last season, when trailing after the 3rd quarter.

The only good team he beat last year, was Indy, and he didn't even break 200 yards passing. Unless, of course you consider a T. Jack lead Vikings team (lol,) who did make the playoffs, and he didn't break 200 yards passing in that game either. He then lost to Minnesota weeks later, when Minnesota had Gus Frerotte starting, where Aaron Rodgers threw a whopping 142 yards.

The best team Aaron Rodgers has beat this year? Jay Cutler and The Bears (lol @ Jay Cutler.)

He plays Dallas next week - a loss.

Pretty much sums up Rodgers leadership ability. Great quarterbacks find ways to win games.

Rodgers missed the pass, that's the bottom line. The line gave him time, the receiver got open, and Rodgers threw a bad pass.

[Nukleopatra]

Pretty much sums up Rodgers leadership ability. Great quarterbacks find ways to win games.

Rodgers missed the pass, that's the bottom line. The line gave him time, the receiver got open, and Rodgers threw a bad pass.

Well, that can be corrected. A lot was said about Tony Romo's lack of leadership, all for good reason, but he finally acknowledged it was true, and so far, he's looking like an entirely different player (playoff victory still in question, of course.) Personally, I like the new Tony Romo more than Mr. Hollywood.

Aaron Rodgers started like 24 games now, so the jury is still out. My only question is, looking at his 24 games, how the fuck did we overrate him, to the point that we did? I actually never realized it until earlier today, but he's only beaten one good football team... and he didn't even reach 200 yards passing.

[Primetime]

Well, that can be corrected. A lot was said about Tony Romo's lack of leadership, all for good reason, but he finally acknowledged it was true, and so far, he's looking like an entirely different player (playoff victory still in question, of course.) Personally, I like the new Tony Romo more than Mr. Hollywood.

Aaron Rodgers started like 24 games now, so the jury is still out. My only question is, looking at his 24 games, how the fuck did we overrate him, to the point that we did? I actually never realized it until earlier today, but he's only beaten one good football team... and he didn't even reach 200 yards passing.

My point being that sums up his leadership ability, thus far.