LOLGASOL@Aaron Rodgers.

[jags224]

whats rodgers statline for todays game?

[Primetime]

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2009110806/2009/REG9/packers@buccaneers#tab:analyze

17/35, 266yds, 2td, 3int, 6 sacks I believe.

[Tengo Juego]

Agreed, but TT needs to make some serious improvements to the team and if they don't win 10+ at least next season, there's no reason for him to not be fired. I'd rather see TT fired than MM though.

Not I. What control does the GM have over what happens on Sunday? Getting the right players on the team...

Our team performing like shit is no fault of Thompson's hirings/firings on the roster. Ryan Grant hasn't gotten the ball consistently, the 3-4 switch has been decent but it seems like our pass rush is evaporated. Injury has hurt us in a few areas, losing Finley and Jordy hurts our passing game. McCarthy's playcalling has sucked since those two have been gone. A 5 wide set is something MM likes to use a lot. But running it without the personnel is stupid.

In the beginning of the game, we ran a few short plays and runs and we moved the ball nicely, and then we chuck it, and chuck it again, then Rodgers has one of those plays where he runs and looks for someone and gets sacked. Can you fault him? Sure, get rid of it , or get comfortable with running A LOT, Aaron. But I think its him trying to execute an offense that we cant run without some of the players we are without.

Running a simplified west coast offense is the best thing we can do right now. Run the ball. We have Grant, Green and Jackson. Get the ball to Driver and Jennings and let them make plays. But we've gotta stop living and dying by the big play.

10+ though? I'd settle for a playoff birth. However many wins that may take to get.

[Primetime]

With the talent on our team, 10 wins isn't too much to ask, especially with the amount of horrible teams out there, include the one we just lost to.

[MrBill]

Rodgers puts up some serious empty stats. He always manages to have big numbers in losses.

Rodger's big stats are about all the Ted Thompson nut huggers have to cling to when the subject of project Favre relocation comes up.

[Senser81]

I think he had like 6 chances last season and failed all of them and this is his 2nd this season, both of which he has failed.

Do you have any proof of this? I thought he pulled the Bears game out of his ass earlier this year, so you are obviously wrong on this season's comment.

[Nukleopatra]

Aaron Rodgers has started in 24 games, GB has beaten one good football team in that span so far (Indy.) Sorry, I do not consider a T-Jack lead Vikings team as ''good,'' especially when they lost weeks later to the exact same team, but with Gus Frerotte starting. Before I even consider putting this guy in my top 10, much less my top 5, which is laughable right now, he needs to beat some good football teams.

Aaron Rodgers will most certainly do that in the near future, but right now, he is clearly fucking overrated. And I have to say, whenever he does whatever the fuck it is he does in the pocket at certain moments, I laugh every single time.

[MrBill]

Before I even consider putting this guy in my top 10, much less my top 5, which is laughable right now, he needs to beat some good football teams.

After last night's game, I think we can consider the Cowboys a good team. They shut down one of the more explosive offenses in the league at home. Let's see if Rodgers can perform against them and lead his team to a victory.

[Rayman]

After last night's game, I think we can consider the Cowboys a good team. They shut down one of the more explosive offenses in the league at home. Let's see if Rodgers can perform against them and lead his team to a victory.

Your offensive line makes me salivate.

[JMeist]

How can sacks be Rodgers fault when he has no pocket to even step into? I see other offensive lines make a damn wall against our pass rush. How did he pick up this terrible habit all of a sudden compared to last year? Between the fucking holding calls on every play and pathetic protection it's the offensive line in my opinion. Sure Rodgers takes some sacks..but blaming him completely is a joke. When half of the plays result in a holding call or sack.


I don't know where to find the statistics, but I would be willing to bet our offensive line is the most punished for holding in the NFL.

[MrBill]

How can sacks be Rodgers fault when he has no pocket to even step into? I see other offensive lines make a damn wall against our pass rush. How did he pick up this terrible habit all of a sudden compared to last year? Between the fucking holding calls on every play and pathetic protection it's the offensive line in my opinion. Sure Rodgers takes some sacks..but blaming him completely is a joke. When half of the plays result in a holding call or sack.


I don't know where to find the statistics, but I would be willing to bet our offensive line is the most punished for holding in the NFL.

Rodgers is developing a reputation for holding onto the ball way too long because he is too hesitant to throw until the receiver is wide open. Great for his stat line on turnovers but the Packers are only scoring on 5% of the drives this year in which Rodgers takes a sack (per the Fox announcer in the booth on Sunday).

Peter King made a great point in that the Colts offensive line is basically the same as the Packers in terms of skill right now but Manning has only taken 7 sacks because he gets rid of the ball so fast.

[bucky]

All the announcers bitch and moan about how the Packers need to get better up front and we'd be so much better if our offensive line didn't give up so many sacks. NEWSFLASH: Aaron Rodgers is responsible for about 70% of the sacks he takes.

70%. Your BF lust blinds you. Are you watching the same games? I also think he holds the ball to long at times. But to blame all these sacks on him is really stupid. I'm seeing guards/tackles get pushed back into the QB, tackles blocking inside and letting DE's run free to the QB, tackles blocking inside and leaving DE's for the TE. Rodgers is running for his life far too often. The O-Line is horribly bad at pass protection. They are getting better at run blocking though.

[bucky]

He is... and could be top 5 material, in the near future. But throwing a guy on the top 5, without seeing two full seasons, is jumping the gun. A player doesn't even qualify for my top 10, until I see at least two seasons from the guy.

Blame the line, blame the defense, but a blind man can see Rodgers has a few flaws, that need some serious working on.

Who in there right mind would expect a guy with less than two years exp. to not have things they need to work on.

[bucky]

I'd just keep it at the fact that he is not a leader. Not only is he unable to make the players around him better, but he also is unable to win close games late. because Rodgers can't even pull off the game winning drive in the regular season.

When AR has backs that can catch the ball, and an average O-Line to work with, and doesn't get it done, then you can question his leadership ability.

[bucky]

Duh. Brees and Palmer have always been good in the regular season. It's all about the playoffs.

Hate to burst your bubble. AR does have a ways to go before anyone can call him a winning QB. And as much of a BF fan as I am, he was a below average playoff QB. One of the greatest ever regular season QB's, but still average at best in the playoffs.