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  • Woy
    RIP West
    • Dec 2008
    • 16372

    BCS Dilemma.

    This is posted in my blog (http://woysword.blogspot.com) but I'm hoping it will spark some discussion on here as well. As a Penn State fan, I am not in favor of this team going to a BCS bowl as we don't deserve it.


    The BCS is a business.

    And that business might get Penn State into the Orange Bowl.

    No, I'm joking one bit. Penn State has a legitimate chance at a BCS Bowl and in fact, will most likely be an at-large if they beat Michigan State next weekend.

    It's hard to comprehend with their on-the-field success. The Nittany Lions have lost to the two best teams they've played all season and don't really have a statement win like a lot of other at-large candidates do. However, there is something they do have...more than a lot of other schools have.

    Money. Penn State generates more revenue than most teams in the nation. This is a huge factor with the Orange Bowl selection committee, who has reportedly not been making enough money lately. And with the direction the college football season has been taking this year, there isn't really any other legit at-large bids out there. Hell, two mid-majors could possibly make the big bowls!

    The BCS requires you to be in the top 14 of the rankings in order to be eligible for a BCS bowl. The conferences can not have more than two bids, which would leave out LSU, who would be the 3rd team after Florida and Alabama. After the weekend's games, Penn State will most likely move into the top 14.

    Now the question is this: is there any team that could jump them as an at-large? Let's say Cincinnati wins the Big East, Oregon wins the Pac-10, Texas wins the Big 12, Georgia Tech wins the ACC, and Florida wins the SEC. Add mid-majors TCU and Boise State who will most likely go undefeated.

    National Championship: Florida/Texas
    Rose Bowl: Ohio State/Oregon
    Sugar Bowl: Alabama/TCU
    Fiesta Bowl: Cincinnati/Boise State
    Orange Bowl: Georgia Tech/?

    The only conference that doesn't have an automatic slot in a certain BCS Bowl is the Big East. For example, the Rose Bowl takes the Big Ten and Pac-10 teams, Sugar Bowl takes a SEC team, Fiesta Bowl takes a Big 12, and the Orange Bowl takes an ACC team. The Big East is the "first at-large" team technically. With Texas in the national title game, Cincinnati would most likely take the Big 12's slot in the Fiesta Bowl.

    So let's look deeper into this. Who could the Orange Bowl possibly take? LSU is out because of the two teams per conference rule. The Big 12 has been sub-par this year with Texas being the only legitimate team out of that conference. Therefore they will not get a second bid.

    Same way with the ACC, since there is no way they will take two teams unless Georgia Tech loses in the conference championship game. Even then, they would have to compete with Penn State as an at-large and although they would have a better resume, it's that money factor that kicks in. Penn State would get the slot.

    That also is the Big East's dilemma. Would they take two teams from that conference? Hell no. Cincinnati would be a possibly if Pitt would win over them, but even then as a (for the most part) start-up BCS school, the revenue factor would bump the Nittany Lions over the Bearcats.

    Remember that Boise State is in my projections as a BCS team. They are a toss-up however because of a weak conference schedule and only one big win over the Oregon Ducks. Penn State brings in more fans and money than the Broncos so they would also get the nod if it came to those two.

    It might not be fair, it might make the BCS look worse, but face the facts - if Penn State beats Michigan State, it's going to happen. Like I said, the BCS isn't just a ranking system but it's also a business.

    And this just in: Phil Grosz of BWI (Blue & White Illustrated) reports if PSU beats MSU and is in the top 14 of the BCS (which they should be) then there's a 95% chance they will be playing in the Orange Bowl.



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  • Goober
    Needs a hobby
    • Feb 2009
    • 12271

    #2
    Question. Why is it Penn St over Wisconsin? They'll both likely be 10-2, both with losses against Iowa and Ohio State. Penn St has a more recent loss.

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    • HeDGi
      Wake Up Mr West!
      • Jan 2009
      • 1913

      #3
      Good read
      G.O.O.D M U S I C

      F U C K I N G B E A S T

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      • Woy
        RIP West
        • Dec 2008
        • 16372

        #4
        Originally posted by Goblinslayer
        Question. Why is it Penn St over Wisconsin? They'll both likely be 10-2, both with losses against Iowa and Ohio State. Penn St has a more recent loss.
        Probably because of the hype surrounding the Nittany Lions at the beginning of the season. They were ranked higher to start the year and continued to stay higher than Wisconsin throughout the season.

        Find the 2024 NCAAF rankings on ESPN, including the Coaches and AP poll for the top 25 NCAAF teams.


        And there it is. BCS rankings have PSU at #14 and Wisky at #16. Basically win and you're in for the Nittany Lions next week against Michigan State.



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        • Saluki
          Ball So Hard
          • Oct 2008
          • 9445

          #5
          very nice, i really want texas to get upset in one of these last games so TCU can get a shot at the BCS title

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          • Len B
            :moonwalk:
            • Oct 2008
            • 13598

            #6
            Would love to see Boise State/TCU/Cincinnati occupy 38% of the BCS. That might finally get all the higher ups in the big conferences to demand a playoff.

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            • Woy
              RIP West
              • Dec 2008
              • 16372

              #7
              Originally posted by Saluki
              very nice, i really want texas to get upset in one of these last games so TCU can get a shot at the BCS title
              Something that can really throw this for a loop is if Texas wins out and loses in the Big 12 championship game. The North team would get the automatic bid and Texas would certainly get an at-large, which would knock either PSU or Boise out of the equation.



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              • Goober
                Needs a hobby
                • Feb 2009
                • 12271

                #8
                Wisconsin has a much better strength of schedule compare to Penn St. Wisconsin is ranked 19th, Penn St is 52nd. Just saying...

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                • Woy
                  RIP West
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 16372

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Goblinslayer
                  Wisconsin has a much better strength of schedule compare to Penn St. Wisconsin is ranked 19th, Penn St is 52nd. Just saying...
                  I understand where you're getting at, but PSU is eligible for the BCS now at #14. They have one of the best fanbases in all of college football and just like the article states, the Orange Bowl is hurting for money right now. They need a team with a following such as PSU to reel in some dough.

                  It's not because of records, talent, or ability. It's strictly a well-thought out business decision, nothing more.



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                  • Bear Pand
                    RIP Indy Colts
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 5945

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Goblinslayer
                    Question. Why is it Penn St over Wisconsin? They'll both likely be 10-2, both with losses against Iowa and Ohio State. Penn St has a more recent loss.
                    Another question is why didn't Penn State play Wisky this year. I know the answer, 8 conference games and 10 possible opponents, but it's ridiculous. ACC/SEC/BIG 12 all have a conference championship game. PAC 10 / Big East schools play everyone in their conference. Big 10 is messed up.

                    Also preseason polls need to go.

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                    • Goober
                      Needs a hobby
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 12271

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Killa Pand
                      Another question is why didn't Penn State play Wisky this year. I know the answer, 8 conference games and 10 possible opponents, but it's ridiculous. ACC/SEC/BIG 12 all have a conference championship game. PAC 10 / Big East schools play everyone in their conference. Big 10 is messed up.

                      Also preseason polls need to go.
                      I'm in favor of all the Big conferences who get automatic bids to the BCS having a championship game. Add a 12th team to the big 10, split them into 2 divisions and we'd be set.

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                      • Woy
                        RIP West
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 16372

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Killa Pand
                        Another question is why didn't Penn State play Wisky this year. I know the answer, 8 conference games and 10 possible opponents, but it's ridiculous. ACC/SEC/BIG 12 all have a conference championship game. PAC 10 / Big East schools play everyone in their conference. Big 10 is messed up.

                        Also preseason polls need to go.
                        The Big 10 will not get a conference title game until they add a 12th member. That way they can split into two divisions just like the other conferences.

                        Rutgers has been rumored for quite some time as possibly switching over.
                        Last edited by Woy; 11-16-2009, 01:31 AM.



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                        • Sharkweather
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 8906

                          #13
                          I'm jumping on the Kansas, Texas A&M, Auburn, and Florida State bandwagon.

                          TCU needs to crash the party!

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                          • Pitty
                            Death, Taxes, Jeff Capel
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 7541

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Woy
                            The Big 10 will not get a conference title game until they add a 12th member. That way they can split into two divisions just like the other conferences.

                            Rutgers has been rumored for quite some time as possibly switching over.
                            Will never happen. The NCAA won't allow a 7 team conference. It's more likely that the Big East and Big Ten combine to form two separate conferences than Rutgers leaving the Big East.

                            And just because a guy from a Penn State site reports that Penn State makes the Orange Bowl doesn't make it true. There's still a lot of football to be played. Far from a 95% chance.

                            Also Penn State may not even be in the Top 14, Two wins from Stanford (who plays #25 Cal and Notre Dame) will certainly leapfrog PSU with two wins. If Iowa can beat Minnesota they too will still hold an edge over PSU as playing Minn and MSU is essentially a wash.
                            Last edited by Pitty; 11-16-2009, 05:40 AM.

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                            • Cryolemon
                              English Dolphins Fan
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 727

                              #15
                              I hope both Florida and Texas get upset, and TCU win out, just to see if it would be a TCU / Alabama title game. The unfortunate side effect if that happened would be that it would restore faith in the BCS...

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