The problem with Tony Romo

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  • Senser81
    VSN Poster of the Year
    • Feb 2009
    • 12804

    #16
    Originally posted by Tailback U
    And you chose to leave out Witten, Barber, and Felix Jones because..?
    Because they never see the ball...?

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    • Tailback U
      No substitute 4 strength.
      • Nov 2008
      • 10282

      #17
      Originally posted by Senser81
      Because they never see the ball...?
      That doesn't diminish their talent, silly head.

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      • KINGOFOOTBALL
        Junior Member
        • Feb 2009
        • 10343

        #18
        Originally posted by Senser81
        LOL. I don't hate the Cowboys, just you.

        Ouch senser....ouch

        Best reason to have a license.

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        • KINGOFOOTBALL
          Junior Member
          • Feb 2009
          • 10343

          #19
          Originally posted by Tailback U
          And you chose to leave out Witten, Barber, and Felix Jones because..?

          Please name some offenses that you think have hands down more overall talent at each skill position than the Cowboys. There are definitely a few teams that are stronger at certain positions but I still think the Cowboys are in the top 5 in terms of overall offensive talent because they have more balance than most teams at each skills position: WR, WR, TE, HB, QB.
          Fine. Just name me an offense that mismanages there talent more than the Cowboys. Why does it take over a year to figure out Roy Williams best routes ? STILL havent found a way to manage 3 good running backs. Now we're just ignoring Witten ?

          Play calling still predictable and passing routes far too time consuming. Theres no problem with deeper complex routes but you dont always have time for double moves and combination routes 15 yards deep. You need to work the underneath which the Cowboys suck ass at.

          Granted he blew some hot reads last week. But for the most part he doesnt have quick options underneath to allow him a better progression. Whats he going to check off to the other WR who is still in the middle of his route ?
          Best reason to have a license.

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          • Derrville
            Dallas has no coaching...
            • Jul 2009
            • 5321

            #20
            Romo's in his 4th season as a starter. 3 and 1/2 if you wanna be really technical.

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            • Tailback U
              No substitute 4 strength.
              • Nov 2008
              • 10282

              #21
              Originally posted by KINGOFOOTBALL
              Fine. Just name me an offense that mismanages there talent more than the Cowboys. Why does it take over a year to figure out Roy Williams best routes ? STILL havent found a way to manage 3 good running backs. Now we're just ignoring Witten ?

              Play calling still predictable and passing routes far too time consuming. Theres no problem with deeper complex routes but you dont always have time for double moves and combination routes 15 yards deep. You need to work the underneath which the Cowboys suck ass at.

              Granted he blew some hot reads last week. But for the most part he doesnt have quick options underneath to allow him a better progression. Whats he going to check off to the other WR who is still in the middle of his route ?
              I mean, that's partially why I made this thread. For whatever reason, the playcalling and gameplan are not maxing out the offense's potential. That much is obvious.

              But you'd think that in his 5th season, Romo would be able to have some control and authority over the offense at the line of scrimmage, wouldn't you?

              I see Romo point out the mike and make a couple calls here and there but sometimes he really looks kind of shy or timid out there when it comes to audibling or making adjustments before the snap.

              You obviously watch the Cowboys much more than I do, how much control over the offense do you think Romo really has? Do you think he's capable of having that power even?

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              • Tailback U
                No substitute 4 strength.
                • Nov 2008
                • 10282

                #22
                Originally posted by Derrville
                Romo's in his 4th season as a starter. 3 and 1/2 if you wanna be really technical.
                Yeah, 5th season in the NFL, though.

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                • Tailback U
                  No substitute 4 strength.
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 10282

                  #23
                  Originally posted by GoChargers
                  I am by no means a Tony Romo fan but I will defend him here, only because I have nothing better to do right now. Except, in my argument, I will include the Atlanta game, it is unfair to ignore his best game to suit your argument.

                  Teams below .500
                  Totals = 79/130 (60%), 1215 yards (303ypg), 8 TD, 0 INT, 113.0 QBR.
                  4-0 record


                  Teams above .500
                  Totals = 104/173 (60%), 1248 yards (250ypg), 6 INT, 6 TD, 79.35 QBR.
                  2-3 record


                  Now, how is that much different to any other 'decent' quarterback? For the sake of argument, I will compare him to a QB that may be similarly valued, Matt Ryan.


                  Matt Ryan
                  Teams below .500
                  Totals = 123/193 (64%), 1322 yards (220ypg), 11 TD, 7 INT, 87.60 QBR
                  5-1 record

                  Teams above .500
                  Totals = 55/105 (52%), 686 yards (229ypg), 3 TD, 5 INT, 62.65 QBR
                  0-3 record



                  Look at other QB's with similar expectations..

                  McNabb; 3-1 against teams below .500
                  1-2 against teams above .500


                  Rodgers; 4-1 against teams below .500
                  1-3 against teams above .500

                  E.Manning; 4-0 against teams below .500
                  1-4 against teams above .500

                  Flacco; 3-0 against teams below .500
                  2-4 against teams above .500

                  Rivers; 4-0 against teams below .500
                  2-3 against teams above .500
                  This is a good post so thanks for putting it together but I don't think it's fair or even worth including guys like Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco, and Aaron Rodgers because two of them are rookies and Rodgers only has 1 season under his belt.

                  McNabb, Rivers, and Eli have all done something that Romo hasn't - win at least 1 playoff game.

                  That's the whole question behind this thread really: Do you believe that Romo will win a playoff game this year? I don't see how anyone can based on the stats in the OP and Romo's record and performance over the course of his career in the month of December.

                  Again, it's not all on his shoulders because the coaching must take some of the blame, too, but everyone knows that the QB is always the guy that people look to judge first and foremost.
                  Last edited by Tailback U; 11-17-2009, 03:48 PM.

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                  • Derrville
                    Dallas has no coaching...
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 5321

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Tailback U
                    Yeah, 5th season in the NFL, though.
                    Actually its 7 but he has had about 4 different offensive cordinators.

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                    • mgoblue2290
                      Posts too much
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 7174

                      #25
                      I love when some of you guys complain about having a bad offensive lines. Clearly you've never seen the Lions offensive line(I know, I know, we're not on TV much but watch on Thanksgiving and you'll see).

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                      • Archer
                        Go the fuck outside
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 15303

                        #26
                        I'm still confused as to why the Boys don't try and be a power running team

                        Best 1-2-3 punch in the NFL and a good run blocking offensive line

                        What's the point in NOT playing to your strenghts?

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                        • Bear Pand
                          RIP Indy Colts
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 5945

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Derrville
                          Actually its 7 but he has had about 4 different offensive cordinators.
                          So has Jason Campbell and JaMarcus Russell. No one ever makes that excuse for them though.

                          And wow, Romo is pushing 30 and still hasn't done shit yet huh?
                          Last edited by Bear Pand; 11-17-2009, 04:27 PM.

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                          • bucky
                            #50? WTF?
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 5408

                            #28
                            Originally posted by mgoblue2290
                            I love when some of you guys complain about having a bad offensive lines. Clearly you've never seen the Lions offensive line(I know, I know, we're not on TV much but watch on Thanksgiving and you'll see).
                            GB O-Line isn't much better.

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                            • nflman2033
                              George Brett of VSN
                              • Apr 2009
                              • 2393

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Senser81
                              The three best players Dallas has on offense are Romo, Witten, and Marion Barber. This year, a typical Dallas game features 1 or 2 passes to Witten, 8 or 9 carries by Barber with no passes to him, and a lot of plays for Crayton, Austin, Williams, and Choice. Its beyond comprehension. I really don't think that Romo is the problem.
                              I think Austin could make a case for being up there, his TD's have been the product of YAC which is all him, well and some horrible tackling.

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                              • nflman2033
                                George Brett of VSN
                                • Apr 2009
                                • 2393

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Archer
                                I'm still confused as to why the Boys don't try and be a power running team

                                Best 1-2-3 punch in the NFL and a good run blocking offensive line

                                What's the point in NOT playing to your strenghts?
                                two words.. JASON GARRETT. he tries too hard to be cute with his play calls

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