Kurt Warner Tracking Thread - Two seasons to go.

[Shayn•Da•Pain]

How long have you guys been on the internet, seriously? DNFTT.

Let him have his thread and move on.

Awww come on man, I'm having a good time with Nuckleheadpatra.

[Nukleopatra]

Awww come on man, I'm having a good time with Nuckleheadpatra.

Even Marino needed a flunky at some point.

[Shayn•Da•Pain]

It's almost invalid to compare Duper to any WR Warner played with for many reasons.

1. The rule changes in recent years.
2. Every star WR [outside of Fitz who only played his rookie season 780 yds 8 tds BTW] had their best years receiving measured by stats without Warner.
3. Duper never played without Marino.
4. Duper's name sucks.

Just sayin'.

edit: I'm sorry this is just mean, I'll strike it from the record.
5. You're a nuckleheadpatra that took his name from a shitty song by an even shittier UK band.

[Nukleopatra]

I was comparing? Did you see any stats?

I was simply telling you that, like Larry, Mark knew his place/role.

Just get over it, man, Fitz has.

[Shayn•Da•Pain]

I was comparing? Did you see any stats?

I was simply telling you that, like Larry, Mark knew his place/role.

Just get over it, man, Fitz has.

The comparison is implied as you've brought him up about 3 times now and I never mentioned his name once in all the time I've been talking Larry, Boldin, Holt, Bruce, Faulk.

Since you talk Larry and Duper, at least Larry had a stat before Warner...and some damn good numbers for a rookie too.

Did Holt know his place?
Bruce?
Boldin?
Faulk?

[Nukleopatra]

Since you talk Larry and Duper, at least Larry had a stat before Warner...and some damn good numbers for a rookie too.

Did Holt know his place?
Bruce?
Boldin?
Faulk?

Larry Fitzgerald didn't have a single 100 yard game during his rookie season (16 games.) Even Az Hakim had a 100 yard game, when he started at least 15 games. Of course, Hakim did have Kurt Warner throwing him the ball, so, lol, that's not a fair comparison, you know?

Let's use, uh, Matt Jones... Matt Jones even had a 100 yard game during his rookie season, and he was rumored to be snorting cocaine at the time.. Cocaine + Byron Leftwich + 100 yards = Impressive, if you ask me.

Larry's rookie season didn't impress me at all. Larry Fitzgerald will impress me, when Kurt Warner retires, and Fitzgerald's performances lead the team to victories, division tites, postseason victories. It's not too much to ask, since they're doing it now, right? And when he does that, If I'm still alive by then, I'll log on, and say I was wrong.

''But it's a team sport, nuk.'' True, and the team is performing very well together, so when Warner retires, he'll leave that team a winner, so whatever happens after that, is on the shoulders of the players who stay behind. And I'll be laughing my fucking ass off, when it all comes crumbling down.

2011, Arizona Cardinals = 4-12.

Quote me.

Can we move on now? I mean, we can discuss this in 2011.

Edit: Yes, people, I know it is asking too much of Fitzgerald, because a WR cannot determine the outcome of an NFL game, the way a two time MVP/Hall of famer (Kurt Warner) can. That's my point. Larry Fitzgerald is a very very good football player. He's compliments Kurt Warner very well, but that's all he does.

[Shayn•Da•Pain]

Larry Fitzgerald didn't have a single 100 yard game during his rookie season (16 games.) Even Az Hakim had a 100 yard game, when he started at least 15 games. Of course, Hakim did have Kurt Warner throwing him the ball, so, lol, that's not a fair comparison, you know?

Let's use, uh, Matt Jones... Matt Jones even had a 100 yard game during his rookie season, and he was rumored to be snorting cocaine at the time.. Cocaine + Byron Leftwich + 100 yards = Impressive, if you ask me.

Larry's rookie season didn't impress me at all. Larry Fitzgerald will impress me, when Kurt Warner retires, and Fitzgerald's performances lead the team to victories, division tites, postseason victories. It's not too much to ask, since they're doing it now, right? And when he does that, If I'm still alive by then, I'll log on, and say I was wrong.

''But it's a team sport, nuk.'' True, and the team is performing very well together, so when Warner retires, he'll leave that team a winner, so whatever happens after that, is on the shoulders of the players who stay behind. And I'll be laughing my fucking ass off, when it all comes crumbling down.

2011, Arizona Cardinals = 4-12.

Quote me.

So you found 1 out of 5 star WR's that have played with Warner who didn't have a 100 yd game without him...interesting. And Fitz had who throwing to him as a rookie? Interesting.

Holt, Bruce, Boldin, and even Toomer all had multiple 100 yard games without Warner, and all had their best statistical seasons without Warner. Just sayin'.

And why did you bold Boldins name? I didn't see you say anything about him. lol

And Matt Jones has really panned out, I must have missed the year he had 1409 yards and made the pro bowl. oh...

[Shayn•Da•Pain]

[edit:]Can we move on now? I mean, we can discuss this in 2011.

Edit: Yes, people, I know it is asking too much of Fitzgerald, because a WR cannot determine the outcome of an NFL game, the way a two time MVP/Hall of famer (Kurt Warner) can. That's my point. Larry Fitzgerald is a very very good football player. He's compliments Kurt Warner very well, but that's all he does.

[fixed your first edit for u]

QB's touch the ball every play, kind of like when Warner was replaced after fumbling the ball six times in one game back in St. Louis ...WR's don't determine the outcome unless the QB can get the ball out to them.

[Nukleopatra]

So you found 1 out of 5 star WR's that have played with Warner who didn't have a 100 yd game without him...interesting. And Fitz had who throwing to him as a rookie? Interesting..

Josh Mccown, who was able to hit Boldin twice in 2004 (Fitz's rookie season,) for over 100 yards.

Josh Mccown who in 2007, was able to hit Ronald Curry for 130+ yards.

Josh Mccown is also responsible for, I think two of Larry Fizgeralds three 100 yard games, prior to Kurt Warner. Three 100 yard games in 32 NFL starts, prior to Kurt Warner.. Again, I'm impressed. How Larry hasn't won MVP yet, is beyond me.

We done yet?

[Shayn•Da•Pain]

Josh Mccown, who was able to hit Boldin twice in 2004 (Fitz's rookie season,) for over 100 yards.

Josh Mccown who in 2007, was able to hit Ronald Curry for 130+ yards.

Josh Mccown is also responsible for, I think two of Larry Fizgeralds three 100 yard games, prior to Kurt Warner. Three 100 yard games in 32 NFL starts, prior to Kurt Warner.. Again, I'm impressed. How Larry hasn't won MVP yet, is beyond me.

We done yet?

Did you really just go through all of that to say McCown threw to Larry Fitzgerald for 100 yards twice? ...I'm just wondering how this helps you at all.

edit: I thought you were making a case for Larry being unable to get 100+ yards without Warner. Odd strategy to change it up at this point. McCown sucks ass chunks and even he could get Larry 100 yards in a game.

Larry had three 90+ yd games as a rookie each time with a TD. And had two multi-TD games as a rookie outside of these 90+ yard games...not too shabby.

[Nukleopatra]

It didn't take much effort at all, Shayne.

I mean, it's Larry Fitzgerald.

Now gtfo of my thread, and post in ours.

[GoChargers]

I do see where you're coming from Nuk. I remember someone saying in the chatbox that the only reason Philip Rivers was any good was because he has 4 recievers over 6"4. Ugh..

[Shayn•Da•Pain]

I do see where you're coming from Nuk. I remember someone saying in the chatbox that the only reason Philip Rivers was any good was because he has 4 recievers over 6"4. Ugh..

Nah I'm not saying Warner isn't any good, I've said in this thread I consider him HOF. Not exactly the same situation here.

[GoChargers]

Nah I'm not saying Warner isn't any good, I've said in this thread I consider him HOF. Not exactly the same situation here.

It is similar. A quarterback's success hardly depends on his recievers, if the quarterback is top 5 in the league.

For someone like David Garrard or Trent Edwards or Marc Bulger - a great WR makes a massive difference.

[Shayn•Da•Pain]

It is similar. A quarterback's success hardly depends on his recievers, if the quarterback is top 5 in the league.

apples and oranges. round peg square hole...you get my drift.

For someone like David Garrard or Trent Edwards or Marc Bulger - a great WR makes a massive difference.

Goes without saying, common NFL fan sense.