Rams interested in Vick?

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  • MRN
    MRNeverwearthesamething
    • Nov 2008
    • 4271

    #16
    I'd take Vick anyday.

    The past is the past.

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    • FirstTimer
      Freeman Error

      • Feb 2009
      • 18729

      #17
      Originally posted by MRN
      I'd take Vick anyday.

      The past is the past.
      But he's even worse now than he was then..........

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      • Senser81
        VSN Poster of the Year
        • Feb 2009
        • 12804

        #18
        Originally posted by shawnomega
        Considering he hasn't really played much, I am not so sure that is true. My guess is he's better because's he's had to focus solely on football to get back after coming from jail. I'd take a gamble on Vick too, there are worse players to take a gamble on..
        Once again, similar to a BusBoyIsBack argument, Mike Vick somehow gets better BY NOT PLAYING!

        I can only imagine what would happen if Vick fell into a 10-year coma....when he woke up people would speculate that Vick is Jim Thorpe and Johnny Unitas rolled into one.

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        • BUCK3YE5
          CP 2K12
          • Aug 2009
          • 1410

          #19
          I would be too. He'll never be what he once was, but he'll come back just as well as Ricky Williams did imo. Vick will still have a big impact on the game.

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          • FirstTimer
            Freeman Error

            • Feb 2009
            • 18729

            #20
            Originally posted by sarlaac food
            When Vick was with the Falcons, we were the #1 rushing team in the league not just because of his added yards but because the constant threat of a Vick bootleg pulled defenders away from the play and opened up cutback lanes. If he can still be a threat to turn the corner, Vick will improve Jackson's numbers. As for the passing game... ¯\(°_o)/¯ he'll probably be better than Keith Null, right?
            Dunn and Duckett averaged the same or more yards when Vick was out as when he was playing.

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            • BUCK3YE5
              CP 2K12
              • Aug 2009
              • 1410

              #21
              Originally posted by FirstTimer
              But he's even worse now than he was then..........
              LOL so are you saying he was bad?

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              • FirstTimer
                Freeman Error

                • Feb 2009
                • 18729

                #22
                Originally posted by BUCK3YE5
                LOL so are you saying he was bad?
                He was overrated as fuck and nothing more than an average QB. He's worse now.

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                • BUCK3YE5
                  CP 2K12
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 1410

                  #23
                  lmao

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                  • FirstTimer
                    Freeman Error

                    • Feb 2009
                    • 18729

                    #24
                    Originally posted by BUCK3YE5
                    lmao
                    Nice counter argument. Dumb ass.

                    So are you saying Vick was actually good? He never did anything of real note other than run for 1000 yards which is a meaningless stat for a QB because it's nearly impossible for a QB to lose rushing yardage when he drops back to pass seeing as sacks come off of his passing yardage....Plus the previous record was held by Bobby Douglass and outside of marrying a playboy bunny Douglass did nothing of note during his time in the NFL.

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                    • mcstl25
                      M-Castle
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 2434

                      #25
                      Originally posted by FirstTimer
                      Nice counter argument. Dumb ass.

                      So are you saying Vick was actually good? He never did anything of real note other than run for 1000 yards which is a meaningless stat for a QB because it's nearly impossible for a QB to lose rushing yardage when he drops back to pass seeing as sacks come off of his passing yardage....Plus the previous record was held by Bobby Douglass and outside of marrying a playboy bunny Douglass did nothing of note during his time in the NFL.
                      Say what you will about Vick, but as a starter he was 10 games over .500. He may be a average to below average QB, but his teams won more than lost with him as the starter. If Vick came to St. Louis and won 6 games next year they'd have a parade for him at the end of the year.

                      I don't particularly want Vick in St. Louis, but after winning a total of 6 games the past 3 years, I say why the hell not. I've been a Bulger supporter, but his time is over with. If the Rams draft a QB in the 2nd round and bring Vick in for a year or two, I'd be okay with that.

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                      • FirstTimer
                        Freeman Error

                        • Feb 2009
                        • 18729

                        #26
                        Originally posted by mcstl25
                        Say what you will about Vick, but as a starter he was 10 games over .500. but his teams won more than lost with him as the starter.
                        Grossman was 19-12 as a starter and went to a Super Bowl.

                        Plus Vick's record as a starter was actually getting worse each of his last three seasons.

                        Originally posted by mcstl25
                        I don't particularly want Vick in St. Louis, but after winning a total of 6 games the past 3 years, I say why the hell not. I've been a Bulger supporter, but his time is over with. If the Rams draft a QB in the 2nd round and bring Vick in for a year or two, I'd be okay with that.
                        I'll give you Lovie Smith back for Stephen Jackson

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                        • mcstl25
                          M-Castle
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 2434

                          #27
                          Originally posted by FirstTimer
                          Grossman was 19-12 as a starter and went to a Super Bowl.

                          Plus Vick's record as a starter was actually getting worse each of his last three seasons.


                          I'll give you Lovie Smith back for Stephen Jackson
                          I'd probably take Grossman in St. Louis as well!

                          If the Rams had a top 25 QB I would say hell no to Vick. However, after winning six games in the last three years, something has to change. Remember, a two win season next year would actually be a sign of improvement!

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                          • Nukleopatra
                            Posts a lot
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 4365

                            #28
                            53.7% completion %.
                            75.9 QB rating.

                            And that's when he didn't suck.

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                            • Esjay
                              Luck2Hilton
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 2328

                              #29
                              Originally posted by BUCK3YE5
                              lmao
                              You are such a dumb fuck. I understand you're like 13 and grew up at a time all of your little dicked friends were running around talking about how great Vick was, but please, learn something about football before you ever post in the NFL section again.

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                              • Esjay
                                Luck2Hilton
                                • Feb 2009
                                • 2328

                                #30
                                Originally posted by GSW92
                                its no secret that he was never a great qb but hes a great rb with a good ability to throw and i would love to see him start for a team again. really what have the rams to lose after a 1 win season. they need somebody who fills a stadium and brings some excitement back to the franchise and everybody who says vick wasnt a great football player just doesnt know anything about football. dont give me qb stats now but he led the league in yards per carry as a qb in atlanta
                                Makes perfect sense. Let's totally disregard the most important statistics for his position, in favor of his rushing totals which are nothing more than a bonus. Anyone who THINKS Vick was a great football player doesn't know anything about football. Vick was capable of being an exciting player who made a highlight reel play each game. People are enamored with his big arm and speed because of how fun it is to watch .. except it will never lead any team to any substantial success. You don't even know if he still has the speed/open field ability! He spent 2 years in prison. I'd say he's most likely not as explosive.

                                Take him in Oakland and lose for another 7-8 years. I'll be laughing my ass off while QB's who can throw the football (you know, what they're required to do) continually win the Super Bowl and the Raiders pick in the top 10.

                                I guess I should give you a break. You have Bruce Gradkowski as your avatar, you wouldn't know good QB play if it snuck up behind you and stuck it's cock in your keister.
                                Last edited by Esjay; 01-17-2010, 08:00 AM.

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