Pinning it all on Favre is ridiculous

[steeljake]

it is favre's fault, period. he is the one who wanted to run that offense and tell childress to fuck off andhe is the one who threw yet another mind numbingly bad pick to end a playoff game.

[Colonel Angus]

Everyone knows Aaron Rodgers would have run for the extra 10 yards they needed for the FG. Brett on the other hand, well, did what Favre does: forces bad passes when it is not needed. Eat it up Vikings fans.

[Primetime]

Brett Favre is the sole reason the Vikings were still in the game in the first place. He played out of his mind. In the books he has 3 turnovers, which is only legitimately 1. The fumble was all on AP and the 1st interception was an easy call missed by the 12th man for the Saints. The last interception was indeed a bad idea, but you can't fault him for trying to make a play to help his team win. It was a 57 yard field goal at that point and would have been between 52-54 had he tucked it in and ran. He needed to make a play and forced a ball across his body.

Even with the fumbling, had the refs called a legit game, Favre and the Vikings would have run away with this game. I can pin the fact that he threw an INT on the last play instead of a low percentage field goal, but that doesn't take away his courage and ability to take his team on his shoulders at the age of 40. Either way, the Vikings still benefited from Favre's presence as he made them a shit load of money. I have no doubt we'll see him back in a Vikings uniform next season.

[Argath]

Blaming the refs for any type of loss in any sport is ridiculous IMO



It shouldn't come down to the refs if you played a good game.

[Colonel Angus]

I think the real question at this point is this: How will Favre get out of training camp next year?

[dave]

So because pinning it all on Favre is ridiculous, you instead go on to blame it all on Childress...



I'm not seeing your logic on this one

I'm not pinning it all on Childress ... but you have to admit the offensive playcalling was awful.
When your best offensive player is a glorified decoy (first-half) in a championship game, there is something not right.

I hate defending Favre here. I think this whole "he's having so much fun out there" and retiring and unretiring crap is tiresome.

I think the real question at this point is this: How will Favre get out of training camp next year?

At his age, I don't have a problem with a team making an exception.
Does Favre really need training camp at this point in his career?

[steeljake]

I think the real question at this point is this: How will Favre get out of training camp next year?

by staying home.

[steeljake]

I'm not pinning it all on Childress ... but you have to admit the offensive playcalling was awful.
When your best offensive player is a glorified decoy (first-half) in a championship game, there is something not right.

I hate defending Favre here. I think this whole "he's having so much fun out there" and retiring and unretiring crap is tiresome.

isnt it a well known fact taht favre calls the plays on the field?

[Newkie]

Brett Favre is the sole reason the Vikings were still in the game in the first place. He played out of his mind. In the books he has 3 turnovers, which is only legitimately 1. The fumble was all on AP and the 1st interception was an easy call missed by the 12th man for the Saints.

LOL. The same 12th man for the Saints that called Roughing the Passer just a few plays earlier? And called a pass interference against the Saints in the endzone? And called 9 penalties for 88 yards against the Saints, and five for 32 against Minnesota?

Again -- LOL.

[citizenerased]

isnt it a well known fact taht favre calls the plays on the field?

He may have a hand in play calling, but he doesn't come up with the gameplan - and virtually benching your starting running back isn't a play call.

[dave]

isnt it a well known fact taht favre calls the plays on the field?

You know, Steeljake, I am actually going to agree with you here. There's a part of me that wonders if Favre wasn't calling some of the plays or audibles.

It's no secret the two did not get along late in the season.

[Argath]

I'm not pinning it all on Childress ... but you have to admit the offensive playcalling was awful.
When your best offensive player is a glorified decoy (first-half) in a championship game, there is something not right.

I hate defending Favre here. I think this whole "he's having so much fun out there" and retiring and unretiring crap is tiresome.




At his age, I don't have a problem with a team making an exception.
Does Favre really need training camp at this point in his career?

Bad play calling or not, the fact of the matter is the Vikings team as a whole did not get the job done. Pinning it on one aspect, regardless of what it is, is ridiculous. You win as a team, you lose as a team. Simple as that.





Training camp is as much a team-building experience as it is a learning experience. Brett Favre should be required to attend as should every player in the league. It brings a team together and helps them connect with one another.

[Primetime]

LOL. The same 12th man for the Saints that called Roughing the Passer just a few plays earlier? And called a pass interference against the Saints in the endzone? And called 9 penalties for 88 yards against the Saints, and five for 32 against Minnesota?

Again -- LOL.

When you lift a quarterback and slam him, it gets called. Every analyst said that was a legit roughing the passer call. The pass interference call was obvious and I can't even understand your judgment of bringing it up.

The pass interference call in overtime was not only a horrible call, but they also missed the block in the back on Jared Allen who would have owned Brees. The shot at the knees was missed, as well as the horrible call on the catch, even after he had instant replay. I may be a little bitter, but I don't feel biased when saying that.

[Primetime]

Bad play calling or not, the fact of the matter is the Vikings team as a whole did not get the job done. Pinning it on one aspect, regardless of what it is, is ridiculous. You win as a team, you lose as a team. Simple as that.





Training camp is as much a team-building experience as it is a learning experience. Brett Favre should be required to attend as should every player in the league. It brings a team together and helps them connect with one another.

Favre didn't even show up until the 2nd preseason game. I think he'll be alright missing it, especially with a year already under his belt.

[dave]

Training camp is as much a team-building experience as it is a learning experience. Brett Favre should be required to attend as should every player in the league. It brings a team together and helps them connect with one another.

I think Favre proved this year training camp means nothing.
Most important position in football and he was airlifted in days before the season started ... and almost got to the Super Bowl.
Favre doesn't need training camp anymore, as long as he stays in shape.
His teammates, while resenting that fact, know it's true.
He's gonna be 41 next year (assuming he plays), the last thing you want is unnecessary wear and tear.