Rumor: Pitt Joining the Big Ten

[jHammack]

Let's be serious for a second, Pitt would not go 5-7 next year or any time in the near future.

Pitt has a great core right now, I can't predict outside of 3 years from now, but the team is solid with Top 20 talent on both sides of the ball, particularly the RBs, WRs, and DL.

To say that Minnesota and NW would beat them is pure exaggeration. They might not go 11-1, or 10-2 every year before the Big 10 Championship, but 9-3 or 8-4 isn't out of the question.

4 wins in the Big 10 are not hard to get - Illinois, Indiana, NW, Purdue, Minnesota? Pitt is better than all of those teams now and heading into the near future.

-Cue Firsttimer groan, I expect it before he even reads the post.

+1 the exact point i've been trying to get through to these people the last 6-7 posts.

[Pitty]

Sorry I went to play football at a smaller school and then transferred to be closer to a sick family member.

Maybe he should ask the other Big 10 cronies where they go to school, lmao.

[jHammack]

NW beat Iowa this year who was an overtime away from the Big Ten title and a Rose Bowl. I wouldn't say its out of the question for them to beat Pitt.

I can agree with most of your psot, but the thing is you wouldn't play every team in the B10 every year. Depending on how the divisions shakeup , you may end up avoiding all four of those teams you just mentioned.

Okay SB, but lets put Pitt into the big 10 right now playing the same schedule Northwestern did.

Towson - W
Eastern Mich - W
@Syracuse - W
Minnesota - W
@Purdue - W
Miami (OH) - W
@ Michigan St - W Tough place to play, but I would say W for Pitt
Indiana - W

Then you get Penn State/Iowa/Wisconsin in your last 3 of 4. Illinois being the 4th, which I would say Pitt wins that. That's 8-9 wins without beating Iowa, Penn State, Wisconsin and not playing OState.

You're telling me the Pitt team from this year wouldn't do that?

[Sportsbuck]

Okay SB, but lets put Pitt into the big 10 right now playing the same schedule Northwestern did.

Towson - W
Eastern Mich - W
@Syracuse - W
Minnesota - W
@Purdue - W
Miami (OH) - W
@ Michigan St - W Tough place to play, but I would say W for Pitt
Indiana - W

Then you get Penn State/Iowa/Wisconsin in your last 3 of 4. Illinois being the 4th, which I would say Pitt wins that. That's 8-9 wins without beating Iowa, Penn State, Wisconsin and not playing OState.

You're telling me the Pitt team from this year wouldn't do that?

I can see them doing that. But also if Pitt was in the B10 in place of Northwestern they would've likely had a tougher OOC schedule... I mean Pitt's not exactly scared to schedule big OOC opponents.

But if Pitt's in the B10 then the divison's would change the league schedule entirely. For instance if they go geographically, they could end up playing Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan, Michigan State, and potentially Iowa or Wisconsin from the other division.

[jHammack]

I can see them doing that. But also if Pitt was in the B10 in place of Northwestern they would've likely had a tougher OOC schedule... I mean Pitt's not exactly scared to schedule big OOC opponents.

But if Pitt's in the B10 then the divison's would change the league schedule entirely. For instance if they go geographically, they could end up playing Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan, Michigan State, and potentially Iowa or Wisconsin from the other division.

Yeah they would have had a tougher schedule, but I was just saying in general. I just think it's funny that people who have no idea about anything regarding Pitt football who say they would be a 5-7 team every year in the Big 10. Pitt is by far a better program than people think and yeah they have been down recently, but that doesn't change what Wannstedt is doing in the present. I'm not saying "Pitt's gonna own the Big 10 every year" because that is retarded. Hell we haven't won the Big East since '04. I'm simply saying that Pitt would be successful and have multiple 8, 9 win seasons. Not to mention, they would get a lot more recruits being in the big 10 which would further improve those great classes that Wannstedt brings in.

[BUCK3YE5]

You should thank yourself because you're a joke.

stop talking to yourself.

[BUCK3YE5]

what happened to you man? you used to be a good poster

now... well... you are the TSGLASS of VSN

lol i just cant stand half the people here. it's fine tho...kinda interesting being the "bad" guy on a forum.

[Esjay]

lol i just cant stand half the people here. it's fine tho...kinda interesting being the "bad" guy on a forum.

Nobody considers you the bad guy. We consider you the retarded fuck that was better off as a stain on his ugly mothers leg.

Fuck you :guitar:

[Senser81]

Let's be serious for a second, Pitt would not go 5-7 next year or any time in the near future.

I don't understand what Pitt has done in the last 20 years to make you think that 5-7 is just completely out of line for Pitt. That's basically been Pitt's record in 3 of Wanny's 5 seasons at Pitt....IN THE BIG EAST.

To say that Minnesota and NW would beat them is pure exaggeration. They might not go 11-1, or 10-2 every year before the Big 10 Championship, but 9-3 or 8-4 isn't out of the question.

I guess its not out of the question, but I don't see how/why anyone outside of Pitt would think that. Northwestern has been more successful than Pitt in the last 5 years since Wannstedt arrived. Minnesota has been on par with Pitt.

4 wins in the Big 10 are not hard to get - Illinois, Indiana, NW, Purdue, Minnesota? Pitt is better than all of those teams now and heading into the near future.

Purdue beat Ohio State....not exactly a "gimme" team even in their worst years. Again, I have NO IDEA why you keep saying that Northwestern would be an easy win for Pitt every year....did you stop watching college football in 1983?

Pitt would immediately be one of the lower-tier teams in the Big10 if they were to join. I'd have them in the Michigan State/Minnesota area.

[Senser81]

Okay SB, but lets put Pitt into the big 10 right now playing the same schedule Northwestern did.

Towson - W
Eastern Mich - W
@Syracuse - W
Minnesota - W
@Purdue - W
Miami (OH) - W
@ Michigan St - W Tough place to play, but I would say W for Pitt
Indiana - W

Then you get Penn State/Iowa/Wisconsin in your last 3 of 4. Illinois being the 4th, which I would say Pitt wins that. That's 8-9 wins without beating Iowa, Penn State, Wisconsin and not playing OState.

You're telling me the Pitt team from this year wouldn't do that?

I just HAVE to comment on the retardation of this posting. OK, you put W's next to Pitt for every game...that proves nothing!

Lets review some of Pitt's recent non-conference games...they lost to Bowling Green at home (!!), they lost to Navy, they got destroyed by an awful Virgina squad, and of course they made a habit of losing to Michigan State.

And then you have Pitt playing a 3-game stretch against Michigan State, Purdue, and Minnesota, with 2 of the games being on the road...and you have Pitt winning all 3 games??!! I think 1-2 would probably be more like it.

Here is Northwestern's full schedule from last year with logical Pitt results...

Towson - W
EMU - W
Syracuse - W
Minnesota - L
Purdue - W
Miami OH - L
MSU - L
Indiana - W
PSU - L
Iowa - L
Illinois - W
Wisconsin - L
Auburn - L

6-7 (3-5)

Sounds about right...

[jHammack]

I just HAVE to comment on the retardation of this posting. OK, you put W's next to Pitt for every game...that proves nothing!

Lets review some of Pitt's recent non-conference games...they lost to Bowling Green at home (!!), they lost to Navy, they got destroyed by an awful Virgina squad, and of course they made a habit of losing to Michigan State.

And then you have Pitt playing a 3-game stretch against Michigan State, Purdue, and Minnesota, with 2 of the games being on the road...and you have Pitt winning all 3 games??!! I think 1-2 would probably be more like it.

Here is Northwestern's full schedule from last year with logical Pitt results...

Towson - W
EMU - W
Syracuse - W
Minnesota - L
Purdue - W
Miami OH - L
MSU - L
Indiana - W
PSU - L
Iowa - L
Illinois - W
Wisconsin - L
Auburn - L

6-7 (3-5)

Sounds about right...

You're bringing up games that happened 2-3 years ago. That was if Pitt played Northwestern's schedule this year. Miami of Ohio and Minnesota would beat Pitt this year? No sorry it wouldn't happen.

Pitt 3 years ago, would have been worse than 5-7. Pitt now, wins 8 or 9 games each year.

And you bring up a habit.. Congrats Michigan State beat fucking Pitt when they lost 6 and 7 games. They played fucking twice. I like how you don't bring up that the same team that lost to Bowling Green (Terrible loss I will admit.) beat Iowa that same year.

Bringing up 5 years ago doesn't mean shit anymore. Pitt isn't even the same program it was 5 years ago. Hell it isn't even the same program it was 3 years ago. Wannstedt, the last two years, has put a solid team out there on the field and will continue to do so.

And if my predictions were so wrong, I think SB wouldn't have agreed with how I played it out. Michigan State, out of all the W's I put next to them would have been the toughest, but I think Pitt would have beat them this year. LOL@Miami (OH) ... they won 1 fucking game. Be real and take off your Big 10 glasses for once.

[Senser81]

You're bringing up games that happened 2-3 years ago. That was if Pitt played Northwestern's schedule this year. Miami of Ohio and Minnesota would beat Pitt this year? No sorry it wouldn't happen.

Pitt 3 years ago, would have been worse than 5-7. Pitt now, wins 8 or 9 games each year.

And you bring up a habit.. Congrats Michigan State beat fucking Pitt when they lost 6 and 7 games. They played fucking twice. I like how you don't bring up that the same team that lost to Bowling Green (Terrible loss I will admit.) beat Iowa that same year.

Bringing up 5 years ago doesn't mean shit anymore. Pitt isn't even the same program it was 5 years ago. Hell it isn't even the same program it was 3 years ago. Wannstedt, the last two years, has put a solid team out there on the field and will continue to do so.

And if my predictions were so wrong, I think SB wouldn't have agreed with how I played it out. Michigan State, out of all the W's I put next to them would have been the toughest, but I think Pitt would have beat them this year. LOL@Miami (OH) ... they won 1 fucking game. Be real and take off your Big 10 glasses for once.

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[Senser81]

Pitt 3 years ago, would have been worse than 5-7. Pitt now, wins 8 or 9 games each year.

And you bring up a habit..

From 1983 to present, a span of nearly 30 years, Pitt has won 9 or more games exactly 3 times! After inheriting a BCS bowl team, Wannstedt has had 2 winning seasons in the last 5 years.

Make it stop.

[NAHSTE]

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I almost choked on my bagel. This jHammack guy brings homerism and idiocy together in one perfect combination.

[Senser81]

I almost choked on my bagel. This jHammack guy brings homerism and idiocy together in one perfect combination.

Yeah, I didn't think that anyone really followed Pitt football...they've kind of been a "nothing" program for about 30 years. Yet here we have a guy WHO NEVER EVEN ATTENDED PITT fighting tooth-and-nail for the concept that Pitt would somehow greatly improve their yearly win-loss record by moving from the Big East to the Big10.