Are Bucs Trying to Trade Up For Suh?

[RyanLeaf16]

Not gonna happen. The Bucs aren't exactly "liquid." They don't have a ton of cash to spend. If anything, they really don't want to invest the money that comes with the #3 pick - let alone the top pick. Are the Bucs interested in Suh? Most definitely. Are they interested in trading up to take him at #1? Not likely.

[Wildcard]

Noone should ever trade up for a DT.

In my opinion DT's come a dime a dozen, and rarely pan out to what they should have been.

Plus there isn't a single DT in this league that is good enough to change an entire defense.

[Yawkey Way]

i don't know about that Wildcard. Guys like Wilfork, Haloti Ngata, the Williams' in Minnesota, all of them play a huge roll in the defense especially if it's a 3-4. You don't have the dominant interior lineman and your scheme takes a huge hit.

[Hasselbeck]

The last thing I want is a QB. None of them impress me much, and blowing a high first rounder on a QB sets back a franchise a decade.

Suh is the obvious pick--the only pick. He's as close to "can't miss" as anyone over the last 10 to 15 years.

Besides, no QB can succeed on this team right now, especially a rookie who will get eaten alive and possibly never develop. Bulger is still under contract, assuming he dosen't retire, let him play it out, draft Suh, and keep building the team from the inside out.

But at the end of the day, Spagnuolo is a complete fucking idiot, so whatever they do end up doing will be wrong.

They said the same thing about Aaron Curry last year. That he was the surest thing in the draft. Mark Sanchez was the risk.

Defensive tackles and linebackers don't turn a team into a Super Bowl contender. A good quarterback does.

I'm not saying the Rams will get to Super Bowl XLV with Jimmy Clausen or Sam Bradford, but they are much more likely to turn the franchise around with one of them if they pan out well, than a guy like McCoy or Suh.

[Hasselbeck]

Maybe the Rams can trade back and still get Clausen or Bradford? :dontknow:

I think this would be the case.. whether they stay at #1 or move to #3.. they will take a QB IMO. And they should. Like Detroit last year with Stafford. Like Atlanta with Ryan.

[Yawkey Way]

What happened to Aaron Curry anyways?

[stevsta]

I still can't see the Rams passing on Clausen/Bradford .. neither guy may be the Matt Ryan, Mark Sanchez type.. but when you are fixing to start Craig Null - that doesn't really matter.

When you have been as miserable a franchise as the Rams have for the past several years, you take a QB to begin the rebuilding process. They have their hopeful franchise tackle (Jason Smith), Suh is a nice player but will he really win games for them? I don't think so. They NEED a QB. That's why Clausen or Bradford will be the pick.. depending on who has the better offseason.

the rams problem dont start with qb quite the opposite its our line all we need is a gamecordinator qb some one who can hand the ball off and throw a 5 and out and once in a while a long ball it makes no sense to draft a qb who will demand large sums of money and not even have weapons for him or a line with suh our defensive line would be long, Carriker, suh, and im not sure who will fill this out but it seems like worst case scenario James hall or best case we sign a julius, unless by some miracle we get 2 #1 with 1 being in the top 10 then i cannot see us trading down or picking up clausen however this is rams management so :shot:

[Hasselbeck]

What happened to Aaron Curry anyways?

Mix of bad coaching (they tried to make him a coverage LB.. god knows why) and just a lack of talent around him.

Curry will be a fine player and may make a few Pro Bowls.. but outside linebackers don't carry your team deep into the playoffs.. usually it's a group effort, a good quarterback can almost will the team to be competitive.

I agree with W2B in that if you blow a high first round pick it sets the franchise back years, but if you whiff on a DT that hurts just as bad as whiffing on the QB.

[stevsta]

I think this would be the case.. whether they stay at #1 or move to #3.. they will take a QB IMO. And they should. Like Detroit last year with Stafford. Like Atlanta with Ryan.

the thing with stafford and ryan are those teams had those top talent wrs the rams have nothing except "potential":club:

[stevsta]

Noone should ever trade up for a DT.

In my opinion DT's come a dime a dozen, and rarely pan out to what they should have been.

Plus there isn't a single DT in this league that is good enough to change an entire defense.

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Btw im too lazy to just have one post with 3 different quotes

[JeremyHight]

the thing with stafford and ryan are those teams had those top talent wrs the rams have nothing except "potential":club:

Atlanta had "top talent wrs"? You could maybe argue White, but getting 1200 yards when your team is behind all season and passing constantly isn't all that impressive. Plus, his previous two seasons were nothing spectacular at all.

I said it before and I'll say it again, the Rams will take a QB. They need someone who will put butts in the seats and sell some jerseys. Bradford or Clausen can do that, Suh cannot. This same thing happened last year in Detroit with fans coming out in huge numbers chanting Curry's name and even Curry saying he would take less money than Stafford. But in the end, the team took the QB because if you are going to spend that much money, you better invest it in the most expensive position on the field.

[BigBucs]

I dont think its necessary. IMO we are guaranteed a game changer at 3 whether it be Suh, Mcoy or Berry. We need to keep our picks and stock pile on talent where ever we can. As bad as we were last year we are not in bad a shape as it seems. A handful of holes being filled can turn things around.

Noone should ever trade up for a DT.

In my opinion DT's come a dime a dozen, and rarely pan out to what they should have been.

Plus there isn't a single DT in this league that is good enough to change an entire defense.

They said the same thing about Aaron Curry last year. That he was the surest thing in the draft. Mark Sanchez was the risk.

Defensive tackles and linebackers don't turn a team into a Super Bowl contender. A good quarterback does.

I'm not saying the Rams will get to Super Bowl XLV with Jimmy Clausen or Sam Bradford, but they are much more likely to turn the franchise around with one of them if they pan out well, than a guy like McCoy or Suh.

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[stevsta]

Atlanta had "top talent wrs"? You could maybe argue White, but getting 1200 yards when your team is behind all season and passing constantly isn't all that impressive. Plus, his previous two seasons were nothing spectacular at all.

I said it before and I'll say it again, the Rams will take a QB. They need someone who will put butts in the seats and sell some jerseys. Bradford or Clausen can do that, Suh cannot. This same thing happened last year in Detroit with fans coming out in huge numbers chanting Curry's name and even Curry saying he would take less money than Stafford. But in the end, the team took the QB because if you are going to spend that much money, you better invest it in the most expensive position on the field.

I did not mean a full roster of top talent wr's I was mainly talking about Johnson and White.

those wrs are probably in most top 20 or even 10 of wrs in the nfl

[Warner2BruceTD]

The Rams don't need a QB, they need football players. They have the worst roster I've ever seen. They need to gtake a sure thing, not gamble with a QB and pay a QB premium. Trading down is fine, I can live with that, as long as they don't blow a high pick on a QB.

Suh is a monster. Take the guy and excite the fan base a little. I have no interest in seeing Bradford or Clausen play like shit, get boo'd by week 7, and ultimately bust out. Bulger is fine.

[Wildcard]

I don't know... If I was a Buccs fan I don't see how I could be 100% behind drafting Suh. He is a defensive tackle... he still doesn't have anyone on the line of scrimmage that can help him. Also DT's have such a bad history of panning out. The offensive lines in College are so much different than the pro's it's almost impossible to judge talent from the DT position.

Quote me, mark my words, hate me. If the Buccs draft Suh they will regret it.


Also BigBuccs brings up Warren Sapp like Sapp didn't have help every where on the field. That amazing Buccs D is a lot different from the Buccs D they have now.

Where is Brooks, Barber, Lynch, Rice?

I'm not shitting on the Buccs. I just think this is a horrible, HORRIBLE, decision.