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  • Sportsbuck
    Buckeye For Life
    • Dec 2008
    • 3045

    #31
    Originally posted by KleShreen
    Oh, hey, I had no idea something that happened 15 and 20 years ago on a different field of play had anything to do with football.
    Then how about Charles Woodson receiving improper benefits from an agent during his Heisman Trophy season? And, I know, Ohio State's not perfect either.
    Last edited by Sportsbuck; 02-27-2010, 05:19 PM.

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    • Emac78
      No longer a noob
      • Nov 2008
      • 1031

      #32
      If USC is hit with major sanctions then it is a disaster for the Pac-10. USC is the only team that makes the conference respectable and not having the Trojans on television would be horrible for the conference as a whole. On the bright side, maybe Oregon State would be televised more often. Plus, USC is still damn good. So what happens when they win the conference? Does the 2nd place team in the conference go to the Rose Bowl or do they let the Rose Bowl pick whoever they want in the nation? Not having a Pac-10 team in a BCS bowl would be another blow for the conference. If any teams were to benefit in the Pac-10, they would be Oregon, UCLA, Washington, Cal, and Stanford in that order in my opinion. I would say Oregon State but who am I kidding? But, really I think it benefits the big boys like Alabama, Florida, Texas, and so forth.
      Last edited by Emac78; 02-27-2010, 11:05 PM.

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      • Fox1994
        Posts too much
        • Dec 2008
        • 5327

        #33
        Originally posted by Emac78
        If USC is hit with major sanctions then it is a disaster for the Pac-10. USC is the only team that makes the conference respectable and not having the Trojans on television would be horrible for the conference as a whole. On the bright side, maybe Oregon State would be televised more often. Plus, USC is still damn good. So what happens when they win the conference? Does the 2nd place team in the conference go to the Rose Bowl or do they let the Rose Bowl pick whoever they want in the nation? Not having a Pac-10 team in a BCS bowl would be another blow for the conference. If any teams were to benefit in the Pac-10, they would be Oregon, UCLA, Washington, Cal, and Stanford in that order in my opinion. I would say Oregon State but who am I kidding? But, really I think it benefits the big boys like Alabama, Florida, Texas, and so forth.
        That's big coming from you. Seeing as how you're an Ore St fan...

        Originally posted by KleShreen
        You're just downright dense and stupid if you don't think recruiting violations happen at every single D1 school. Every single one.
        You keep saying every single one... So even the sucky, small-profile, Sun Belt schools? I mean, it wouldn't surprise me, because they're not under the microscope (being small-profile), but still... Troy, CMU, FAU?

        Eh, you never know.

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        • JeremyHight
          I wish I was Scrubs
          • Feb 2009
          • 4063

          #34
          Originally posted by KleShreen
          You're just downright dense and stupid if you don't think recruiting violations happen at every single D1 school. Every single one.
          I definitely think that a lot of schools cheat, but I'm not about to say every single one does just to make my team's past discretions look like less.

          You blatantly try to say that Michigan doesn't pay recruits as much or as often as other big programs, but I bring up probably the highest paying recruiting scandal for any sport in the last 20 years and you try to disregard it. Face it, Michigan has done that before, they have gone all out and sold their soul for talent. Why wouldn't they do it again considering you are so set that EVERY school does it?

          P.S. Michigan was a huge program and on par or bigger than just about any football program in the nation just a few short years ago.

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          • Herm
            Boomshakalaka
            • Oct 2008
            • 9314

            #35
            Originally posted by strahanfan92
            UCLA is on the rise big time.. keep an eye out for them
            Ive always loved Neuheisel since i was a bandwagon colorado fan in the early 90s, lmao. I still cheered for UK but i loved watching them as well when they were good. I hope UCLA gets their stuff together and curbstomps USC for years to come.

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            • longhornfan
              Carpe Diem
              • Mar 2009
              • 732

              #36
              I remember Terrence McCoy's quote on why he picked A&M.

              "They take care of you down there," McCoy said. "I know from my brother they keep your pockets full, give you plenty of money, keep feeding you meals. Besides that all the help they give you with football. They keep you on your grades with private tutoring. Just good all-around."
              Yes, the Aggies take care of their own | SportsJustice | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle

              Like Kle said, stuff like this happens at pretty much every school. It's bigger at some schools than others.
              But my bestfriend from HS was Russ Okungs roommate for 4 years at Okie Lite. I know they used to go and 'work' at a driving range that belonged to a booster and got paid like $20 an hour.
              Last edited by longhornfan; 03-01-2010, 10:19 AM.

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              • Herm
                Boomshakalaka
                • Oct 2008
                • 9314

                #37
                Originally posted by Fox1994
                That's big coming from you. Seeing as how you're an Ore St fan...



                You keep saying every single one... So even the sucky, small-profile, Sun Belt schools? I mean, it wouldn't surprise me, because they're not under the microscope (being small-profile), but still... Troy, CMU, FAU?

                Eh, you never know.
                I live close to MTSU and im telling you they arent getting transfers from BCS schools out of thin air. You are very naive if you dont think this goes on at least at all d1 football, basketball, and probably most baseball programs.

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                • Atlas
                  BRACK FRIDAY BUNDURU!!!!!
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 7949

                  #38
                  Originally posted by KleShreen

                  lmao. Go talk to some players from ANY D1 school and have them tell you the shit that happened on their recruiting visits.

                  You really need to get your head out of the clouds. College football isn't as pure as you think it is. It's just as much of a business as professional football, and it all starts in recruiting. Every school cheats, it's just a matter of how well they can cover it up and what they can get away with. I'd give examples, but 1.) nobody here would believe them, and 2.) they're big enough where I don't want to be called into an NCAA hearing for them.
                  i played and coached D-IA ball, and shit didnt happen on any of my recruiting visits, nor did we grease the recruits with anything on theirs... i would chalk most of what you hear from these kids down to exaggeration on their part...

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                  • longhornfan
                    Carpe Diem
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 732

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Atlas
                    i played and coached D-IA ball, and shit didnt happen on any of my recruiting visits, nor did we grease the recruits with anything on theirs... i would chalk most of what you hear from these kids down to exaggeration on their part...
                    So you played and coached D1 ball and never saw any greasy ass shit? Come on..
                    You must have been on the rowing team or something.

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                    • FedEx227
                      Delivers
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 10454

                      #40
                      Yeah, I saw and knew of greasy shit in mediocre, mid-level Division III.
                      VoicesofWrestling.com

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                      • Atlas
                        BRACK FRIDAY BUNDURU!!!!!
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 7949

                        #41
                        Originally posted by longhornfan
                        So you played and coached D1 ball and never saw any greasy ass shit? Come on..
                        You must have been on the rowing team or something.
                        i never saw anything like what is being insinuated by KleShreen, teams dont blatantly pay players... yea there were boosters giving guys "jobs" and paying them $30/hour to do nothing, but nothing horrendous... we didnt grease guys on recruiting visits, we just got the hottest girl we could find to give them a tour, and our best/most famous player at the position they were projected as as their host... ive seen a lot of morally/ethically wrong things both as a player and coach, but nothing illegal (as defined by the NCAA handbook)...

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                        • FedEx227
                          Delivers
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 10454

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Atlas
                          i never saw anything like what is being insinuated by KleShreen, teams dont blatantly pay players... yea there were boosters giving guys "jobs" and paying them $30/hour to do nothing, but nothing horrendous... we didnt grease guys on recruiting visits, we just got the hottest girl we could find to give them a tour, and our best/most famous player at the position they were projected as as their host... ive seen a lot of morally/ethically wrong things both as a player and coach, but nothing illegal (as defined by the NCAA handbook)...
                          Yeah, that's not blatantly paying players at all.
                          VoicesofWrestling.com

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                          • Atlas
                            BRACK FRIDAY BUNDURU!!!!!
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 7949

                            #43
                            Originally posted by FedEx227
                            Yeah, that's not blatantly paying players at all.
                            as long as they are there, actually doing something and getting paid only for the hours they work (not like the OU thing), its not illegal... if the booster wants to pay them that much, its his prerogative, but athletes are only allowed to make so much money a year (it used to be $2500, but that was 5 years ago), so its kind of irrelevant...

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                            • LiquidLarry2GhostWF
                              Highwayman
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 15429

                              #44
                              All schools cheat.

                              They really do.

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                              • Atlas
                                BRACK FRIDAY BUNDURU!!!!!
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 7949

                                #45
                                Originally posted by KleShreen
                                I'm guessing you never got one of these "tours"...
                                i did, but all they do is flirt with you and show you the campus (in that order)... sadly, i didnt get recruited by UC, i heard they had awesome parties for their recruits...:datass:

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