Who do you think is the best quarterback in college football?

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  • Warner2BruceTD
    2011 Poster Of The Year
    • Mar 2009
    • 26142

    #31
    Originally posted by SuperKevin
    I hate when people answer without giving any support to their choice
    Random Mediocre QB, because he plays for my favorite team.

    A major reason the nfl/ncaa section sucks.

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    • Warner2BruceTD
      2011 Poster Of The Year
      • Mar 2009
      • 26142

      #32
      Prior stinks, I've never been impressed. Some weeks he's the best athlete on the field. Reminds me of Antwan Randle El, but Randle El was more dynamic.

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      • beamerball811
        Senior Year
        • Nov 2009
        • 1299

        #33
        Originally posted by SuperKevin
        Trying to generate some solid college football discussion in here to get amped up for the season.

        Jake Locker may be the most physically gifted of the college quarterbacks with his Tim Tebow like frame and athletic ability but he has a much stronger arm to go with it.

        Ryan Mallett has the strongest arm of the bunch but has the accuracy issues in big games that seemed to derail the careers of similar prospects like JaMarcus Russell and Kyle Boller.

        Christian Ponder might not be the most gifted or exciting quarterback but his leadership and accuracy will remind many of Colt McCoy coming into his senior year.

        Andrew Luck seems to be the current flavor of the week with people ready to annoint him the cream of the crop after one season at Stanford.

        Terrelle Pryor is a Vince Young clone which a few years ago might have been a red flag.

        Other guys worth mentioning: Jacory Harris, Matt Barkley, Nick Foles, Nathan Enderle


        Personally I'm a big fan of Christian Ponder as I feel he's the most pro ready of the quarterbacks and he's the only one I'd feel confident putting under center as a rookie.
        Ponder sucks! When will people figure this out...same with Jacory...people have been no his dick for 2 years and he hasn't produced. Tyrod Taylor is more worth mentioning than Jacory Harris...how couldn't you mention Greg McElroy of Alabama? A frosh to lead Bama to the title

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        • Kuzzy Powers
          Beautiful Like Moses
          • Oct 2008
          • 12542

          #34
          Case Keenum

          /thread.

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          • BrntO4Life
            My Aunt Ida Smokes.
            • Mar 2009
            • 6866

            #35
            Originally posted by beamerball811
            Ponder sucks! When will people figure this out...same with Jacory...people have been no his dick for 2 years and he hasn't produced. Tyrod Taylor is more worth mentioning than Jacory Harris...how couldn't you mention Greg McElroy of Alabama? A frosh to lead Bama to the title
            Seriously? How big of a homer can you be to diss other QBs as overrated and then mention Taylor, notoriously overrated QB, as the opposite?

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            • Sportsbuck
              Buckeye For Life
              • Dec 2008
              • 3045

              #36
              Originally posted by Senser81
              I'm calling BS on this. You make it seem as if Pryor had an epiphany after the Purdue game, but he was really just the same QB he had been.
              He didn't have an epiphany (although the way I worded it does make it sound like thats what I'm saying) but after the Purdue when he really started to make strides as a passer. If you wanted to point to the game where the lightbulb finally clicked all the way it would be the Rose Bowl.
              He could dink-and-dunk, and the only passes he could complete downfield were play-action lobs.
              Pryor did much more than dink and dunk and lob. He wasn't Peyton Manning out there, but he wasn't exactly checking down to his running back on every play either.
              Against Minnesota I counted 1 long TD pass off of a play-action, a long pass for a huge gain where Pryor threw it perfectly to Posey's outside shoulder where only his man could get it, a few broken plays where Pryor found Posey and Sanzo coming back to the ball, and then him on a designed roll out where he found Posey beating a cover 2 for a TD.
              Against NMSU there was a perfect strike for an 18-20 yard TD to Sanzo against a cover 1, where the safety was sitting in the middle and the corner was trailing. He found Posey for a 30 yard gain early on a 3 step drop fade.
              Against PSU he found Dane right over the linebackers and in front of the safety in a cover 2 with the perfect pass for the situation (Dane got rocked though). He hit Posey for a deep TD when he got beyond the safety.
              Against Iowa all he really could do was dink and dink, outside of a beautiful 17 yard throw to Posey thats really all we tried to do anyway (and with how dominant the run game was that day its no surprise).
              The 5 games following the Purdue game, which included 3 of the weakest teams on OSU's schedule, Pryor completed 13, 11, 8, 14, and 9 passes. Sorry, that doesn't seem like a "pro-style" attack.
              Up until Purdue we mainly stuck with a spead attack with zone reads, QB draws, and speed options as our running game. After Purdue, we went with a more I-formation, pro-set, ace, etc. style of attack and it worked like a charm as our running game exploded against great defenses like Penn State and Iowa. Obviously we still worked in the zone read and option (With a QB like Pryor you would be crazy not to) but we established the running backs first out of the I and other sets.

              By pro-style I didn't mean a passing attack where we threw the ball 35 times, I mean the type of offense we tried to run in terms of formations, packages, etc.
              The Iowa game is a great example of Pryor's shortcomings as a passer. Iowa actually has a good defense (unlike Oregon, who just before the Rose Bowl had given up 51 to Stanford, 41 to Arizona, and 33 to Oregon State. Ohio State could only score 26). Pryor 'played within himself' and completed 14 of 17 passes...for a grand total of 93 yards! The longest pass play for OSU was 17 yards!
              Iowa sat in a straight cover 4 for 90% of the game and really forced us to hit the short stuff... that was the most blatant coverage scheme I've ever seen in my life. So, when we did pass we hit the flats with our backs and found our WR's underneath, but Iowa's defense snuffed them out before they could get much YAC.

              Franikly I don't know why Pryor was brought up in this thread... I don't consider him a top 10 QB in CFB at this point let alone a top 5 and I don't consider him a Heisman candidate either. He's a solid player at this point but he's still got a lot of growing to do before he deserves the kind of hype he's gotten.

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              • Sportsbuck
                Buckeye For Life
                • Dec 2008
                • 3045

                #37
                Originally posted by beamerball811
                how couldn't you mention Greg McElroy of Alabama? A frosh to lead Bama to the title
                ? McElroy was a redshirt junior year last year.

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                • Chadman
                  I Am Willie Beamen
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 1048

                  #38
                  Mcelroy is okay. He did good vs shit teams and okay vs the great teams. im sure julio jones hates him.

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                  • Fox1994
                    Posts too much
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 5327

                    #39
                    McElroy was college football's answer to Trent Dilfer. He's Ricky Stanzi without the unwarranted hype.

                    Btw, thanks for the details on Mallet's suckitude. I'll try and remember that this season.

                    And Pryor was excellent in the Rose Bowl. Granted, Oregon didn't have a much-vaunted defense, but he seemed to have made strides from his mediocre-at-best regular season performance.

                    I think if he can continue progressing and stay for a fourth year he could develop into a true dual-threat pro quarterback. (McNair and McNabb at one point in their respective careers.)

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                    • Tailback U
                      No substitute 4 strength.
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 10282

                      #40
                      I got to see Luck play live a few times last season so I'm a bit biased, but I was really impressed by his throwing technique and footwork. I'm sure the fact that he is so young makes him more impressive than he actually is, but he's a polished QB for his age and has a ton of room to grow. He will be a 1st round pick in a couple years, no doubt about it in my mind.

                      I've seen pieces of Jake Locker over the last 3 years and he's always been a stud, but has never really proved anything to me. He's a great athlete. I still don't know if he's a great QB, though.
                      Last edited by Tailback U; 07-26-2010, 03:32 PM.

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                      • FirstTimer
                        Freeman Error

                        • Feb 2009
                        • 18729

                        #41
                        I agree. I went to the ND-Wash game last season(and saw him play in quite a few others) and the first thing that imrpesses you about Locker is his size. He's also a hell of an athlete. But I agree with you I'm not sure how good of a "quarterback" he is. You kind fo wait for him to take over games and he never really does. He's not overly accurate, not overly fast, and hasn't really done much to "wow" people at the college level. He doesn't have any plays or throws that stick out as being "holy shit" type moments.


                        I think another offseason under Sark will do him a lot of good going into this season but up until this point he hasn't really jumped off the page at me and I'm not buying into the hype.

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                        • Realist
                          Junior Member
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 6057

                          #42
                          Homer Pick - Ponder

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                          • gaysex4lif
                            No longer a noob
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 1476

                            #43
                            This is easy. It's McElroy. The most important stat is this, he hasn't lost a game as a starter since 8th grade.
                            Last edited by gaysex4lif; 07-26-2010, 07:27 PM.

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                            • longhornfan
                              Carpe Diem
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 732

                              #44
                              Originally posted by buck
                              This is easy. It's McElroy. The most important stat is this, he hasn't lost a game as a starter since 8th grade.
                              It helps that he went to one of the most prolific and winningest HS in the country.

                              And I think the only year he started in HS was his senior year. Kinda hard to lose when you don't even play.

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                              • BrntO4Life
                                My Aunt Ida Smokes.
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 6866

                                #45
                                Originally posted by buck
                                This is easy. It's McElroy. The most important stat is this, he hasn't lost a game as a starter since 8th grade.
                                He sat behind Riley Dodge for 3 years...

                                Also, that stat hardly makes you the best QB. It makes you the best QB on the best team and that's not what this discussion is about.

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