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I am still LOLing at your "on this scale" comment...as if we have high standards of correctness here in the VSN NFL/NCAA forum. We have multiple threads on Tim Tebow's jersey sales, Tim Tebow's endorsement deals, Tim Tebow's alleged girlfriend, etc., so I think the standards are set pretty low.
I am still LOLing at your "on this scale" comment...as if we have high standards of correctness here in the VSN NFL/NCAA forum. We have multiple threads on Tim Tebow's jersey sales, Tim Tebow's endorsement deals, Tim Tebow's alleged girlfriend, etc., so I think the standards are set pretty low.
I meant more along the lines of comparing the LG play of 120 different players.
Its like when guys post All Pro teams. Do they really think Brad Meester was the best C in the AFC, or was it the first guy with a good rep they could think of? Something tells me Nahste isn't breaking down film of Lee Ziemba.
I meant more along the lines of comparing the LG play of 120 different players.
Its like when guys post All Pro teams. Do they really think Brad Meester was the best C in the AFC, or was it the first guy with a good rep they could think of? Something tells me Nahste isn't breaking down film of Lee Ziemba.
I think its much easier in the NFL...fewer players, easier to watch most of the games, and the players don't change all that much.
I agree that college OL 'grading' is nearly impossible. I just tried to pick guys that I've seen play. If they have a cool name, like "Loadholt" or "Meester", thats a plus, too.
The same could be said for most discussions related to X's and O's or breakdowns of certain players or positions. I've always found it funny when guys breakdown NFL defenses or how highschool recuits "fit" on their favorite team. For the most part fans don't know what they're talking about and most of their formed opinion comes from media people.
QB: Case Keenum
RB: Mark Ingram
RB: Dion Lewis
WR: Michael Floyd
WR: AJ Green
TE: Kyle Rudolph
OL: Gabe Carimi
OL: Jake Kirkpatrick
OL: Mike Pouncey
OL: Stefen Wisniewski
OL: Rodney Hudson
DL: Daquan Bowers
DL: Allen Bailey
DL: Marvin Austin
DL: Greg Romeus
LB: Quan Sturdivant
LB: Greg Jones
LB: Casey Matthews
DB: Patrick Peterson
DB: Prince Amukamara
S: Mark Barron
S: Rahim Moore
A lot of my defense is kind of a stretch pick so don't take any of those with much value.
I would make a case for Michael Floyd to be higher in some of your lists, but I don't want to bore you guys with any ND homerism I could spew out.
Better tell elmo about this. He argued with me for about an hour the other night talking about Chekwa > Peterson. We know that isn't true, but it was nice to see a Buckeye showing some respect to the best corner in the country
QB: Kellen Moore
RB: Mark Ingram
RB: Dion Lewis
WR: A.J. Green
WR: Michael Floyd
TE: Kyle Rudolph
OL: Mike Pouncey
OL: Gabe Carimi
OL: Justin Boren
OL: Lee Ziemba
OL: Rodney Hudson
DL: Cameron Heyward
DL: Adrian Clayborn
DL: Marvin Austin
DL: Marcel Dareus
LB: Greg Jones
LB: Von Miller
LB: Quan Sturdivant
CB: Patrick Peterson
CB: Brandon Harris
S: Mark Barron
S: Tyler Sash
I meant more along the lines of comparing the LG play of 120 different players.
Its like when guys post All Pro teams. Do they really think Brad Meester was the best C in the AFC, or was it the first guy with a good rep they could think of? Something tells me Nahste isn't breaking down film of Lee Ziemba.
Ziemba's one of the guys on the list I've spent the most time watching, considering he's been a starter since he was a freshman and LSU plays AU every year. He's the assfuck who took out Glenn Dorsey's knee in 2007.
But I get your point, and yeah, I don't watch OL play every time I'm watching a game, but I'm not making my list from a scouts' perspective. This is more of a who's who list to be compiled and dissected by fans of the game. It's purely for discussion generating purposes.
I'm not the least bit interested in where any of these players get drafted. I just wanted to make a list of guys I am aware of going into the season, based on what I've seen and read. No, I haven't broken down and graded hours of game film on any of these guys, but I tried not to include anyone I haven't read about or seen play at least a few times.
The same could be said for most discussions related to X's and O's or breakdowns of certain players or positions. I've always found it funny when guys breakdown NFL defenses or how highschool recuits "fit" on their favorite team. For the most part fans don't know what they're talking about and most of their formed opinion comes from media people.
Bingo. Most people don't know the first thing about assessing talent. Most the people here are going off of media and limited film, but my question is who cares?
If I have seen Von Miller play in a few games and think he is an amazing player then why not put him on this list? Is there somebody better out there? Maybe. but we won't know until the season plays out and as a fan he is the best I've seen.
Better tell elmo about this. He argued with me for about an hour the other night talking about Chekwa > Peterson. We know that isn't true, but it was nice to see a Buckeye showing some respect to the best corner in the country
Chekwa isn't even the best corner on his own team right now.
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