[NFL] Top 10 RB's

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  • Warner2BruceTD
    2011 Poster Of The Year
    • Mar 2009
    • 26142

    #31
    Originally posted by Primetime232
    Pretty sure that is Mr. Webster's definition of Homer.
    Are you refering to me?

    nevermind, saw the edit.

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    • Aso
      The Serious House
      • Nov 2008
      • 11137

      #32
      Originally posted by f16harm
      Ricky Williams and/or Ronnie Brown are still better RBs than J.Stewart, M Turner, Ray Rice, R. Grant, and Jamaal fucking Charles.

      I mean really???? Jamaal FUCKING Charles????
      Ricky would make my top 15 list. But Ronnie Brown is definitely not as good as any of the guys you listed. The Dolphins offensive line was also better than the Panthers, Falcon, Packers, and Chiefs last year.

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      • NAHSTE
        Probably owns the site
        • Feb 2009
        • 22233

        #33
        Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
        Williams doesnt have nearly the same skill set of Jackson. I think in the bolded scenerio, Jackson would outproduce him by a wide margain.

        Take a look at Jackson's numbers the last time he played in an offense that wasnt abysmal (2006).

        And the last three years, the Rams havent had a bad offensive line, they have had a historically bad offensive line. Just look at the career curve of Marc Bulger and the injury history of both Bulger & Jackson. The Rams have also had zero passing game to speak of, and Jackson is the one & only focus of the defense every single week.

        It's unfair to compare ypc in this case. Stewart averages over 5.0 ypc in the same offense as Williams, so it seems to me its more a product of a run first team built to run the ball. Neither of those guys would produce at a per carry level like that on STL, and it's safe to say Jackson would easily go 5 per pop with Carolina--especially splitting time.

        I'm a Williams fan, and I agree with your assessment. Jackson is probably the 3rd best back in the NFL in terms of overall ability. From there it gets hazy, but it should be MJD/Rice/Williams/Turner after that IMO.

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        • Warner2BruceTD
          2011 Poster Of The Year
          • Mar 2009
          • 26142

          #34
          Originally posted by BobSmuggins
          I'm a Williams fan, and I agree with your assessment. Jackson is probably the 3rd best back in the NFL in terms of overall ability. From there it gets hazy, but it should be MJD/Rice/Williams/Turner after that IMO.
          I like Willams, too. Threads like this put you in a position of being critical towards guys when you don't want to be.

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          • dMerch
            yaFACE
            • Jan 2009
            • 1365

            #35
            johnson
            peterson
            mojo
            dwill
            jackson
            burner
            rice
            brown
            benson
            grant

            gt;dMerch
            aim;swmsfootball76

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            • bucky
              #50? WTF?
              • Feb 2009
              • 5408

              #36
              Originally posted by BobSmuggins
              He's a productive back for sure, rarely fumbles, and picks up tough yards between the tackles.

              Durable, reliable, and ultimately, and above average he certainly is. But not a great back, IMHO. I'd probably have him in my top 10, but barely.

              Yeah, he got 1200 yards back to back years, but it took him 312 carries one year and 282 the next. 1200 isn't even a lot in a 16 game season. That's an average of 78 yards per game, good for 11th best in the league in 2009. In 2008, he was 12th in the league in rushing ypg. So yeah, he's above average, but far from elite.

              LOL at "passy happy offense" when Grant has received 600 carries in two years. Yeah, GB slings the ball around a lot but it's not like they only throw RG the occasional bone, he gets plenty of work in that offense. If anything, playing in such a pass-happy offense and getting so many carries, his numbers should be higher.

              Have to agree. Ryan Grant is above average and not great. He might make it in a top ten list. Bottom of the top ten, might just be above average.

              It is a pass happy offense, and the O-Line, ever since the Zone Blocking scheme, hasn't been a very good Run Blocking Unit. Grant has earned his yards. GB's passing also does open up the running game.

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              • Aso
                The Serious House
                • Nov 2008
                • 11137

                #37
                Originally posted by DMERCHANT72
                johnson
                peterson
                mojo
                dwill
                jackson
                burner
                rice
                brown
                benson
                grant
                Is that Ronnie Brown?

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                • Aso
                  The Serious House
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 11137

                  #38
                  Last year the Packer offensive line wasn't that bad at run blocking. They were middle of the league. The question mark around them was how well they could pass block.

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                  • Colonel Angus
                    No longer a noob
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 1935

                    #39
                    Adrian Peterson is not a top 5 back until he stops fumbling. If it wasn't for Brett throwing the NFC Championship game away Adrian Peterson would have been blamed for fumbling it away.

                    And I am a Packer fan with bias but Ryan Grant is not a top ten back. He can't block and he can't catch passes.

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                    • ~Chance~
                      Blaze one for the NATION
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 2939

                      #40
                      1.CJ
                      2.AP
                      3.Ray rice
                      4.Deangelo W.
                      5.Stephen Jackson
                      6. Micheal Turner
                      7.Cedric Benson
                      8.Ryan Grant
                      9. Jonathan S.
                      10. Barber.
                      ___________________________



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                      • longhornfan
                        Carpe Diem
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 732

                        #41
                        LOL @ AD not being a top 5 back in the league.

                        Thank God your not a GM.


                        1. AD
                        2. Chris Johnson
                        3. Steven Jackson
                        4. MJD
                        5. Ray Rice
                        6. Turner
                        7. Frank Gore
                        8. DeAngelo Williams
                        9. Ronnie Brown
                        10. Jamaal Charles

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                        • G-men
                          Posts too much
                          • Nov 2011
                          • 7579

                          #42
                          Originally posted by ~Chance~
                          1.CJ
                          2.AP
                          3.Ray rice
                          4.Deangelo W.
                          5.Stephen Jackson
                          6. Micheal Turner
                          7.Cedric Benson
                          8.Ryan Grant
                          9. Jonathan S.
                          10. Barber.
                          get the fuck out with that shit. hes never even rushed for 1000 yards for a season.

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                          • Hasselbeck
                            Jus' bout dat action boss
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 6175

                            #43
                            1.) Chris Johnson
                            2.) Adrian Peterson
                            3.) Maurice Jones-Drew
                            4.) Steven Jackson
                            5.) Ray Rice
                            6.) Frank Gore
                            7.) Michael Turner
                            8.) Jonathan Stewart
                            9.) Deangelo Williams
                            10.) Jamaal Charles
                            Originally posted by ram29jackson
                            I already said months ago that Seattle wasn't winning any SB

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                            • bucky
                              #50? WTF?
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 5408

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Colonel Angus
                              Adrian Peterson is not a top 5 back until he stops fumbling. If it wasn't for Brett throwing the NFC Championship game away Adrian Peterson would have been blamed for fumbling it away.

                              And I am a Packer fan with bias but Ryan Grant is not a top ten back. He can't block and he can't catch passes.
                              I actually like Grant. I like his effort and think he's under-rated. But he's from average to a little above average.

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                              • f16harm
                                -
                                • Feb 2009
                                • 2183

                                #45
                                I simply cannot put Ray Rice in the top 10 based on one fucking season.

                                Way too many one year wonders in NFL history. I'll give Ronnie the pass because of his injury history, but Ricky has never lost anything even with his multiple hiatuses. If he would have played through all of those seasons, he'd probably be in the top 4 rushers of all time by now.

                                Anyone remember McClain's "awesome" season the year before with Baltimore???

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