Dave sees Bill Simmons' top-32 QBs and raises him with his top-32 QBs (NFL)

[Primetime]

Someone hasn't watched VY since week 8 of last season. He's miles better than Sanchez.

And someone also didn't watch the TEN/OAK game. That Raiders offensive line could be the worst in the league. Jason Campbell might die this season with the lack of protection he'll get.

The way the KC/SD game is going, Phillip Rivers may be in the same boat as Campbell.

[Fox1994]

Can't believe you're still not convinced VY is better than Sanchez. Even more unbelievable that you think Oakland will be anything but a 5 win team this year.

Last year you might've agreed with him before VY took over... Granted, he did take over and he did do some things. In any case, like he said, one week doesn't forecast a whole season...

[dave]

Right now, the Kansas City Chiefs are going to the Super Bowl.
Sorry, week 1 does not equal the season.

[Primetime]

Right now, the Kansas City Chiefs are going to the Super Bowl.
Sorry, week 1 does not equal the season.

No. Right now, the Chargers aren't going to the playoffs. The Chiefs longest drive has been 3 plays.

Think dude...

[dave]

No. Right now, the Chargers aren't going to the playoffs. The Chiefs longest drive has been 3 plays.

Think dude...

If Vick had played the entire game, you'd be on suicide watch.

And I was being sarcastic, that was my point.

[Primetime]

I'll agree 100% Vick dominated us. No way for us to scheme against playing Michael Vick for an entire half. Clay Matthews won the game for us because he's the only person that contained Vick.

No reason for Kolb to play next week. Let Vick get his opportunity to prove it wasn't just a fluke. They were a much better team with Vick in the game than with Kolb.

[Fox1994]

If Vick had played the entire game, you'd be on suicide watch.

And I was being sarcastic, that was my point.

Fucking Dexter McCluster's a boss, too. I fucking love that kid. Even if he does play for the fucking Chiefs. And frankly, I'd rather they win than the Chargers. Fuck the Chargers.

In other news, I'm rather impressed with how LT did with the Jets. They've got a very, very good offensive line. I really underestimated that. I mean, I knew it was bomb to make TJ look so great, but LT's fallen off with SD the last few years, and it's not like their o-line is garbage.

Maybe he's repurposed himself. Idk.

[Primetime]

BTW, Going back to a past argument of WR trios dave....

Jennings/Driver/Finley: 14REC, 159YDS, 2TD
Jackson/Maclin/Celek: 10REC, 100YDS, 1TD

Just sayin.....

[Fox1994]

I'll agree 100% Vick dominated us. No way for us to scheme against playing Michael Vick for an entire half. Clay Matthews won the game for us because he's the only person that contained Vick.

No reason for Kolb to play next week. Let Vick get his opportunity to prove it wasn't just a fluke. They were a much better team with Vick in the game than with Kolb.

I remember saying something about rooting for the Birds if they started Vick and being called an idiot for that. Not that you said it, but I stand by that statement. lol. Like it matters.

I was very impressed by him. Very, very impressed. But, maybe I'm biased.

You just learn so little from week 1, though, seen? I'm really interested in the Packers this year. They're my division winner pick.

[Primetime]

Not biased at all Fox. He was very impressive, on the ground and through the air. Even one of the best defenses in the league in the Packers couldn't do anything to contain him.

[dave]

I'll agree 100% Vick dominated us. No way for us to scheme against playing Michael Vick for an entire half. Clay Matthews won the game for us because he's the only person that contained Vick.

No reason for Kolb to play next week. Let Vick get his opportunity to prove it wasn't just a fluke. They were a much better team with Vick in the game than with Kolb.

Your guys won that game legit.
I have no problem with that.
I still like Kolb, but he seemed nervous and the O-Line was awful in his half (hell, in Vick's half too).
I don't think the Birds should abandon Kolb because of one half ... but I appreciate what Vick did.

Your receivers are fine, but I think ours are more explosive.
Your quarterback is simply further ahead at this point and your offensive co-ordinator actually believes running the ball is OK.

[Primetime]

Your guys won that game legit.
I have no problem with that.
I still like Kolb, but he seemed nervous and the O-Line was awful in his half (hell, in Vick's half too).
I don't think the Birds should abandon Kolb because of one half ... but I appreciate what Vick did.

Your receivers are fine, but I think ours are more explosive.
Your quarterback is simply further ahead at this point and your offensive co-ordinator actually believes running the ball is OK.

Not sure if you took what I said right or not about Vick. I wasn't saying he should automatically be the starter because of one half, but I was simply stating that Kolb should rest for a week, take his time with his first concussion and come back 100%. The last thing the Eagles need is Kolb being scared of getting hit and throwing the ball up for grabs. I just think Vick should get another opportunity and if he does just as well, if not better, he should get his shot to produce week in and week out.

You have the most explosive receivers in the NFL, period. I know that is a fact and Jackson is the most explosive in the NFL IMO. I do believe we have the better all-around receivers though and we proved that throughout the game and we will throughout the year. Aaron Rodgers played like shit against the Eagles and our offensive line looked like shit yet again in a early regular season game.

[Fox1994]

I hope Kolb gets hurt and is out for the season with a more severe injury, and Vick leads the Eagles to the playoffs... But I'm not that lucky. :dontknow:

[Primetime]

Vick with the Eagles > Romo with the Cowboys

[dave]

Not sure if you took what I said right or not about Vick. I wasn't saying he should automatically be the starter because of one half, but I was simply stating that Kolb should rest for a week, take his time with his first concussion and come back 100%. The last thing the Eagles need is Kolb being scared of getting hit and throwing the ball up for grabs. I just think Vick should get another opportunity and if he does just as well, if not better, he should get his shot to produce week in and week out.

You have the most explosive receivers in the NFL, period. I know that is a fact and Jackson is the most explosive in the NFL IMO. I do believe we have the better all-around receivers though and we proved that throughout the game and we will throughout the year. Aaron Rodgers played like shit against the Eagles and our offensive line looked like shit yet again in a early regular season game.

I agree your O-Line looked weak, but I think our D-Line deserves a lot of credit.
All four guys were awesome.
Our DEs were amazing - Cole, Graham and Parker.

IMO, neither Kolb or Bradley should not play this week ... and Reid should be suspended for a week for just putting them on the field after their concussions, especially Bradley's. It was inexcusable.

It's time for all NFL coaches to wake the fuck up. These gladiators put their bodies on the line 16 weeks and deserve some respect. I felt sick to my stomach when I saw Bradley out there after his concussion. That was just wrong.

And don't get me going on the 18-game regular season. 16 is enough.