Marshawn Lynch to Seattle

[Spidey]

Pretty much in agreeance. I am livid. I've been a fairly big TT supporter over the years. He has set the team up nicely for years to come. The only things I have ever been pissed about were missing on Moss, and the inability to create a decent O Line. This has me furious though.

I've heard it said before and I am starting to agree. TT is a good GM. He is capable of building teams for sustained success. But I think he lacks the ability (whether it be smarts or nads) to do what it takes to take the next step and do what it takes to become a championship caliber team. The Lynch trade was a fucking layup and he missed it. Even if it was a 3rd rounder, it was going to be a late one if we are as good as TT must think we are. Plus we are almost guaranteed a comp 3rd rounder for losing Kampman.

He has definitely put a bullseye on his head, again. If the Vikings somehow come back and take the division or even if the Packers fail later in the season on account of their lack of running game, TT is going to take major heat in GB. I'll be one of the first in line to call for his head and tell him thanks for setting us up nicely for years but its time to move on to somoene who understands what it takes to take the next step.

And there is no chance we get Williams from the Panthers unless the last day has put the fear of god in TT. But thats not likely. TT's ego won't allow that.

[Primetime]

Johnathan Stewart would probably come at a cheaper cost. However, GB seems content with thinking they can throw the ball around with everyone's next favorite HOFer at QB.

Panthers are much more willing to get rid of Williams. They are trying to rebuild and Stewart is only 23. Williams was the only one of the four backs in Carolina that the Panthers were willing to give up. I would love Stewart, but the Panthers simply won't get rid of him.

The Panthers also said they would like to wait until the Saints and Bears game to see how they play. They said if they lose both games, they will be listening to offers for Williams. Now I don't know whether to root for the Bears winning another game, or the Panthers beating their ass. I don't feel like we're getting Williams either way so we'll have to wait and see.

All I'm hearing about right now is a trade involving Brandon Jacobs from the Giants. I wouldn't mind him taking snaps on 1st and 2nd down, with Jackson taking the snaps on 3rd down passing situations. I would much rather have Lynch or Williams, but I'll take what I can get at this point. Any move is pretty much an upgrade over Jackson and Kuhn.

[Tengo Juego]

Pretty much in agreeance. I am livid. I've been a fairly big TT supporter over the years. He has set the team up nicely for years to come. The only things I have ever been pissed about were missing on Moss, and the inability to create a decent O Line. This has me furious though.

I've heard it said before and I am starting to agree. TT is a good GM. He is capable of building teams for sustained success. But I think he lacks the ability (whether it be smarts or nads) to do what it takes to take the next step and do what it takes to become a championship caliber team. The Lynch trade was a fucking layup and he missed it.

He has definitely put a bullseye on his head, again. If the Vikings somehow come back and take the division or even if the Packers fail later in the season on account of their lack of running game, TT is going to take major heat in GB. I'll be one of the first in line to call for his head and tell him thanks for setting us up nicely for years but its time to move on to somoene who understands what it takes to take the next step.

And there is no chance the get Williams from the Panthers unless the last day has put the fear of god in TT. But thats not likely. TT's ego won't allow that.

I'll stand behind TT through success and failure. He's made too many good moves, to keep making a stink about not trading for Moss, or Lynch. Or keeping Favre.

The DeAngelo talks are rumor. Nothing more.

As far as "not pulling the trigger" on these trades. No Moss? No problem. Jennings, Driver, and Finley are pretty fucking good. Who's complaining about that still?

Saying no to Favre, well...We've seen how that is turned out since. No need to explain.

Just my beliefs. I'm not the type of fan to complain about making major team changes with the coach or GM. There's more to it than what we see on ESPN and gameday and that I dont see nor understand to have a real opinion.

[Primetime]

I'll stand behind TT through success and failure. He's made too many good moves, to keep making a stink about not trading for Moss, or Lynch. Or keeping Favre.

The DeAngelo talks are rumor. Nothing more.

As far as "not pulling the trigger" on these trades. No Moss? No problem. Jennings, Driver, and Finley are pretty fucking good. Who's complaining about that still?

Saying no to Favre, well...We've seen how that is turned out since. No need to explain.

Just my beliefs. I'm not the type of fan to complain about making major team changes with the coach or GM. There's more to it than what we see on ESPN and gameday and that I dont see nor understand to have a real opinion.

Who would you rather have for the past 3 years though....Jennings, Driver, Finley, and Moss......or Jennings, Driver, Finley, and Allen Barbre. 90% of fans have no idea who Barbre even is. While I'm happy with our current receiver corp, it could be even nastier. Imagine what Jennings could do in the slot.

[Tengo Juego]

Allen Barbre? What do you know, that I dont? Is that the projected pick we would have given for Moss?

[Primetime]

Allen Barbre? What do you know, that I dont? Is that the projected pick we would have given for Moss?

He's the guy we got with the draft pick we wouldn't give for Moss.

[Spidey]

Allen Barbre? What do you know, that I dont? Is that the projected pick we would have given for Moss?

Correct.

I am have been over the Moss thing for some time. Things worked out. Just pointing it out as one of the few times I have been really angry with Thompson. I was really upset that day.

3 years from now I may feel the same way about this.

I am just worried, like I said, that TT doesn't know how to get over the hump. I enjoy that we're set to be a good team for a while, but that means diddly squat to me if there's no SB in there. I am not satisfied with just being good. Maybe TT will prove me wrong. I sincerely hope he does.

[MrBill]

Charles Woodson thought it was stupid not to get Lynch as well. Not a big vote of confidence for the front office coming from one of the leaders in the locker room.

Packers cornerback Charles Woodson was asked today on the Jim Rome radio show what the thought about the Packers not trading for former Buffalo Bills running back Marshawn Lynch:

"I thought with the way things shaked out with our team it would be a logical thing for us to do to get another big-time back like Marshawn Lynch. And it didn't pan out," Woodson said. "For players, there's nothing you can do but go out there and play football with the guys you've got."

[Colonel Angus]

He's the guy we got with the draft pick we wouldn't give for Moss.

I don't care about the Moss crap. Anytime a GM starts appeasing diva players such as Favre there is going to be trouble. Lynch for a third should have been a done deal though considering how much of an upgrade he would have been. Has everyone in the front office in Green Bay already forgotten how much he was killing their defense week 2?

The fact that they haven't even brought anybody off the street for a tryout speaks volumes at this point. TT still isn't ready to give up on Brandon Jackson who was one of his picks and a bust in the second round at that. I'm still a TT supporter based on how he stood down Favre a couple years ago but this just confuses me.

[Primetime]

Allen Barbre is a very good guard and will probably be a starter for a long time.

I don't care if he is a future hall of famer. He's not even a Packer anymore. That's just embarrassing.

[Colonel Angus]

I don't care if he is a future hall of famer. He's not even a Packer anymore. That's just embarrassing.

WOOPS. Had him confused with Josh Sitton. I thought he was the pick.

Yeah Allen Barbre blows.

[Primetime]

Exactly.

They released him something like a week and a half ago.

So basically we could have had Randy Moss for free. Cool TT.

[Colonel Angus]

Now that this thread has been overrun with disgruntled Packer fans I can ask if anyone has gotten a chance to look at jsonline's practice report blog for today. Looks like this team is going down the tubes fast. Barnett wasn't at practice, Chillar wasn't at practice and there are rumors he could be out for the rest of the season, Shields still wasn't back, and Jarret Bush looks like he's going to be the new starter at safety.

The best part is that they still haven't made a roster move to replace Morgan Burnett's spot.

Not looking good at all.

[Tengo Juego]

Barnett will be back. Woodson didn't practice either. It's all about recovery for those guys.

Chillar has underperformed so far, but is reliable in pass D so I can understand concern there. Hawk has stepped it up, though. As far as Shields, I dont know. But we have guys to step in for him with Lee and Underwood.

Bigby, Harris, and Starks are eligible week 6. Not going to run out and sign players then turn around and cut them.

[MrBill]

Barnett will be back.....in 2011

@Adam_Schefter Packers LB Nick Barnett is out for season after suffering a wrist injury similar to one that ended Brian Urlacher's season last year.