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Originally posted by Practice Update for 8/3/11 courtesy of TBO5:35 p.m.: And that's it for today. We'll have more information about McCoy shortly - R.C.
5:18 p.m.: McCoy is leaving practice and was pointing to his right biceps while explaining what happened to his teammates. He injured his left biceps last year. - A.R.
5:12 p.m.: DT Gerald McCoy has his uniform off and is with the head trainer. He is working his right arm. - A.R.
5:06 p.m.: Rookie MLB Mason Foster has been getting a lot of first-team looks today and has been very solid. - A.R.
5:04 p.m.: DT Roy Miller looks like one of the most improved players on the team. The Bucs are having a very hard time keeping him out of the backfield with one blocker. - R.C.
4:53 p.m.: In the two-minute 11-on-11 drill, the defense is in nickel personnel but the MLB is not on the field; SLB Quincy Black is there instead. That could be one of the changes early on this season as the Bucs groom Tyrone McKenzie and Mason Foster for the MLB role. - R.C.
4:51 p.m.: Bucs are in two-minute drill mode right now, simulating end-of-half and end-of-game situations on offense. - A.R.
4:50 p.m.: Mike Williams is consistently getting five yards of separation on every defender. He might be the most precise route-runner in Bucs history. - I.K.
4:49 p.m.: Rookie TE Luke Stocker is off his crutches. Looks like he's right on schedule for a return to the field sometime next week or immediately after the first exhibition game at Kansas City. - R.C.
4:48 p.m.: Water break for the team. - A.R.
4:47 p.m.: LB Dekoda Watson is showing tremendous burst off the snap in pass-rushing drills. - I.K.
4:34 p.m.: Aqib Talib cannot stop Mike Williams. Period. Talib tries and just can't hang. It doesn't even seem fair at times. - A.R.
4:33 p.m.: Some of the O-linemen like RG Davin Joseph are making up for lost time. They look very fresh and they're hitting with authority today. - R.C.
4:28 p.m.: DE Adrian Clayborn just showed everyone why the Bucs spent a first-round pick on him. In an 11-on-11 drill he shed a block and stuffed RB LeGarrette Blount for no gain. - R.C.
4:26 p.m.: Bucs DBs are getting lit up in 1-on-1 drills vs receivers. It makes you wonder who that says more about. - A.R.
4:25 p.m.: Mason Foster is running with the first-team defense in its first 11-on-11 work today. - R.C.
4:23 p.m.: The new guy, QB Jonathan Crompton, is a little hard to find. He's wearing No. 8, but he's wearing a white jersey while all the other QBs are wearing orange jerseys. - R.C.
4:22 p.m.: TE Kellen Winslow is at practice and hasn't missed a day yet. Looks like the knee is doing great. - A.R.
4:18 p.m.: The linemen are going through some one+n-one and two-on-one drills. So far, Gerald McCoy has consistently beat his double team. - R.C.
4:14 p.m.: Yaphett from Tampa says, with what the Bucs have done the last two years, how can you NOT be a fan of the Buccaneers? - R.C.
4:13 p.m.: With a new CBA in place, Davin Joseph and Jeremy Trueblood are finally working up a sweat. - I.K.
4:11 p.m.: They've upgraded the giveaways here today. The cheerleaders, in full regalia, are tossing visors into the stands as well as miniature plastic footballs and popsicles. - R.C.
4:10 p.m.: Former Pro Bowl defensive tackle (and current defensive line coach) Keith Millard is on a back field, getting down and dirty with Bucs interior linemen. - I.K.
4:07 p.m.: You can tell that the time off has hurt Arrelious Benn a bit. He's not catching the ball as cleanly as he needs to today. - R.C.
4:06 p.m.: Now the receivers are working on keeping their feet in bounds. So far they're not doing too bad, but there is some room for improvement. - R.C.
4:04 p.m.: WR coach Eric Yarber is slapping his guys with boxing mitts, yelling "Ball security is job security!" He might be getting the best workouts of anybody on the team. - A.R.
4:02 p.m.: And when I say full-squad, I mean full-squad. Even fan fanatic Big Nasty is here. He's the guy who paints his face and has a big horn sticking out of the hard hat he wears. In tow is some guy who calls himself The A-Train Man, who paints his face and has a toy train sticking out of the hard hat he wears. I'm guessing he was an Alstott fan. Maybe it's time jumped on board the B-train known as LeGarrette Blount. - R.C.
3:55 p.m.: This will be the Bucs' first true full-squad workout of training camp. - R.C.
3:52 p.m.: The storm has passed and the boys are back on the field - R.C.
2:47 p.m.: Players just finished stretching and now are going inside because of lightning. Let's see when practice resumes. - A.R.
2:45 p.m.: The Bucs have just started practice, and it rain appears rain is on the horizon. We will see how much work they are able to get in. - A.R.Originally posted by Regarding McCoys InjuryRick Stroud of the St. Petersburg Times reported that GMC’s injury could be a stinger and that he ripped his shoulder pads off right away.
NFLSTROUD Rick Stroud
GM Mark Dominik says G McCoy's'shoulder injury is 'not scary,' and he's 'day to day'
Roy: Bucs GM Mark Dominik on McCoy: "It's nothing scary. We just decided to get him out of there."
NFLSTROUD Rick Stroud
Morris says McCoy could play if there was a game on SundayBuccaneer Training Camp 2011: Mason Foster Gets Sage Advice from Derrick Brooks
by Tom Edrington
You will like Mason Foster.
The third-round draft pick of your Tampa Bay Buccaneers is a no-nonsense, "yes sir" and "no sir" kind of young man.
He received a wealth of sage advice on Wednesday at Buccaneer training camp. He got it from one of his idols, the double-nickel, No. 55, Derrick Brooks.
It's all here for you on WDAE620. Do yourself a favor: listen to Brooks' running commentary of the Buccaneers practice. You WILL learn something about football.
Foster is learning a lot about football these days as he competes for the starting Mike linebacker job on the defense. He's battling with Tyrone McKenzie and after the sweaty session, he met Brooks face-to-face for the first time.
Here's how it went down:
"Yes sir, nice to meet you," is how Foster greeted Brooks.
Brooks then had his own questions for Foster and a lot of advice.
"They're not gonna water down anything for you," Brooks told Mason in regards to competing for the starting slot. "You've got to show you can get it done."
Brooks knows. When he was drafted, he was thrown into the mix as the starter the first day he stepped foot into camp.
Brooks gave Foster a short litany. But when it came down to the summary of advice, this is how he put it:
"Pace yourself. Appreciate the learning curve. Stay in that book! If you have questions, PLEASE, get them answered."
Foster then found out Brooks' nickname during his playing days.
"The Don."
Rookies on defense had better get close, get an audience with "The Don."
The Don?
"Ask the guys in the room about that one," Brooks told Foster.
A reference to Don Corleone from The Godfather, no doubt.
That's the sort of respect Brooks commands.
Yes, sir.
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Thanks for the info, BB. Looking forward to the Friday night game with KC to see how the rooks/vets combo do.
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Video from camp (8/5/11) of K2 Mossing the shit out of bum ass Elbert Mack and driving his shoulder into him while on the ground for some reason. D breaks it up and he goes to apologize.
Vid courtesy of BucJordan over at our message board.
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Oldschool of WhatTheBuc.net on Fridays (8/5/11) practice
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Oldschool of WhatTheBuc.net on Yesterdays (8/6/11) night practice at RayJay
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Ira: Bucs GM Mark Dominik can't stop raving about first-round pick Adrian Clayborn. The Iowa rookie has already won the starting RDE job.
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At the end of the day, BigBucs was 100% right about Freeman and I feel stupid now (not a new sensation).
I can't imagine how good Freeman will become when he gets legit weapons. With Tampa's cap space, next year is going to be very interesting.
They're not forced to reach the cap this year, but are next year. They are gonna have a lot of cap room.My Twitch video link: http://www.twitch.tv/dave374000
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At the end of the day, BigBucs was 100% right about Freeman and I feel stupid now (not a new sensation).
I can't imagine how good Freeman will become when he gets legit weapons. With Tampa's cap space, next year is going to be very interesting.
They're not forced to reach the cap this year, but are next year. They are gonna have a lot of cap room.
As for "legit weapons", dont expect to many new faces unless its through the draft. Mark and Rah are not deviating from their build with our guys/through the draft plan. If Free puts up big numbers again this season and we have to spend expect him to get paid before we start dabbling in FA.
We also will have to make decisions on players like Tanard Jackson who will be a FA after this season. He will be reinstated after week 1, or is eligible at least, and if he picks up where he left off we will have to give him a nice contract, not to mention Mike Williams and Lagarett Blount who will be do some money soon. All our money will be spent in house.
On the weapons note, one WR to watch for this season, Desmond Briscoe. Gonna open some eyes. Mike Williams is reportedly killing it in camp, shitting on everyone, even Talib.
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A Work in ProgressWith the first preseason game just days away, the Buccaneers released the required depth chart, their initial one of 2011, and it lists two rookie starters and only a few changes from last year
The Tampa Bay Buccaneers released their first 2011 depth chart on Monday, almost exactly at the midpoint of training camp.
Why Monday? Because they had to.
With the first preseason game looming on Friday, the team was required to put out an “official” depth chart to start the week. The Kansas City Chiefs, who will play host to the Buccaneers at Arrowhead Stadium on Friday evening, were required to do the same.
Tampa Bay’s new depth chart is crowded, of course, given the enormous 90-man camp rosters allowed this year by the 11th-hour CBA agreement. It’s also packed with rookies and young players, including three NFL newcomers in the top spots at their position. And it seemingly provides some answers, too, about how certain battles are shaping up in the early going.
What does it really mean, however? Ask Head Coach Raheem Morris and he’ll tell you, simply and bluntly: Absolutely nothing.
So take the Buccaneers’ first depth chart of the year with more than a few grains of salt. It’s a work in progress, and jobs all over the 29-line document will remain in competition throughout training camp and the preseason.
That said, the new depth chart is yet another sign that football is almost upon us. The Bucs are four days away from their first live action of 2011 and just 34 days away from the regular-season opener. So let’s take a quick look at some of the more interesting entries on that depth chart, even if they’re not yet set in stone.
Click here to view the entire depth chart.
1. Wide Receiver
It’s no surprise that last year’s rookie duo, Mike Williams and Arrelious Benn, remain atop the depth chart at the two receiver spots, though Benn is easing his way back into action near the tail end of his recovery from ACL surgery. Though the two receiver spots are not specifically marked as such on the depth chart, Williams remains the X, or split end, while Benn is still at Z, or flanker. Of course, Morris has said in the past week that Williams is learning the other receiver spots (the Bucs call the slot receiver they’re “Zebra”) so that he can occasionally line up in unexpected places.
What’s most interesting about the receiver depth chart is that second-year man Dezmon Briscoe has moved into the spot right behind Benn at flanker. Briscoe spent half of last season on the Bucs’ practice squad, and he started out by learning the X position, but Williams’ dominance in that spot prompted the coaches to move him to Z. Briscoe appeared in the last two games and was a revelation, with six catches for 93 yards and a touchdown, and he has been one of the team’s most impressive players during the first two weeks of training camp. Sammie Stroughter and Micheal Spurlock are both listed behind Williams and remain excellent options in the Bucs’ passing attack, as does Preston Parker, but it looks like the team is strongly considering getting Briscoe a good amount of playing time this year.
2. Right Tackle
This position is a prime example of the reason Morris, like most coaches, thinks a depth chart at this stage of the preseason isn’t worth the paper it’s printed on.
Jeremy Trueblood started the first six games of last season at right tackle and James Lee started nine of the last 10. Trueblood’s streak of 67 consecutive starts was snapped last October when he sustained a knee injury in a win over St. Louis, and the previously untested Lee stepped in and played quite well. In fact, Lee held onto the starting job even after Trueblood returned to full health.
Lee finished the 2010 season as the starter but the Buccaneers made a point of re-signing Trueblood as an unrestricted free agent. It’s clear that those two are battling for the starting spot, and that might be one of the toughest predictions on the depth chart in this year’s training camp. Still, on the very first depth chart, Trueblood is listed first, which means he will likely start the preseason opener against the Chiefs.
3. Second Tailback
With Cadillac Williams officially out of the picture after his signing with the St. Louis Rams, the Buccaneers have an opening at the primary spot behind starting running back LeGarrette Blount. Earnest Graham might take a portion of the carries that don’t go to Blount, but he remains in the starting spot at fullback, where he was last year.
At the moment, that job appears to be Kregg Lumpkin’s to lose, though he is not treating the competition as if it is over. The Buccaneers have three interesting rookies right behind him, including the team’s sixth-round pick out of USC, Allen Bradford. Bradford is a big back somewhat in Blount’s mold, and the Bucs have stated that they want to pound away with a power rushing attack, but Lumpkin isn’t exactly small. During the team’s Night Practice at Raymond James Stadium on Saturday, Lumpkin got the ball on two of the team’s first three goal-line plays and was able to blast it into the end zone both times.
4. Defensive End
Not that it was unexpected, but first-round pick Adrian Clayborn debuts as the starter at right defensive end, where Stylez G. White got the majority of the starts last year. White is an unrestricted free agent who has not been re-signed and Clayborn has been unstoppable at times during practice. Clayborn will have to hold off the recently re-signed Tim Crowder, who started nine games at left end last year, but the former Iowa star certainly looks as if he’s on track to start on opening day.
On the other end of the line, the first spot at left end goes to the player who started the Bucs’ last two games at right end in 2010, Michael Bennett. As a re-signed exclusive rights free agent, Bennett had to wait until Friday to get in his first practice action of training camp, but he hit the ground running. The Bucs think Bennett has a lot of talent to exploit, and they also like his ability to play defensive tackle if needed, too. The first depth chart has Bennett listed in front of second-round draft pick Da’Quan Bowers, but that is no knock on last year’s NCAA sack leader. Bowers has displayed no struggles with the knee that required surgery earlier in the year, but the Bucs will proceed with a cautious plan in order to keep him on track. Even if he’s not starting, Bowers is a good bet to see extensive playing time early in the season.
5. Middle Linebacker
This spot has fostered one of the best battles of training camp, as the team looks for the right replacement for the departed Barrett Ruud. While third-round pick Mason Foster was drafted with the express idea that he might need to step right in at the “Mike” position, the presence of second-year player Tyrone McKenzie has kept that from being a slam dunk.
McKenzie and Foster have both seen a significant amount of playing time with the first crew during training camp, though McKenzie started out with a higher percentage of the snaps and Foster has recently seen it tilt more in his direction. On the first depth chart, Foster gets the nod at the top Mike slot, with McKenzie in the second slot. The team is also high on undrafted rookie Derrell Smith, who is listed behind McKenzie.
6. Safety
The two players who made the most starts at safety in 2010 are still in the starting spots on the first 2011 depth chart. Sean Jones opened all 16 games at strong safety while then-rookie Cody Grimm made nine starts at free safety. Grimm replaced the suspended Tanard Jackson after two games and played extremely well, but he spent the last five games of the year on injured reserve. That gave an opportunity to Corey Lynch, who also performed well. Those five starts for Lynch were at free safety, but he is now listed as the primary reserve to Jones.
What’s more interesting is the placement of rookie Ahmad Black, who looks like he is first learning the free safety position, where the team also has an interesting prospect in first-year player Larry Asante. Of course, the Bucs’ two safety positions have been considered largely interchangeable for some time, so Black would likely be able to help at either spot if needed.
7. Return Man
The Buccaneers have plenty of proven options to return punts and kickoffs. In fact, Micheal Spurlock and Sammie Stroughter have both returned kicks for touchdowns in the past few seasons.
It’s Spurlock who gets the first seat at both return jobs, however, at least heading into the preseason. The Buccaneers have listed the same order at both punt returner and kick returner: Spurlock, Preston Parker and Stroughter.
There are other notes of interest regarding the first 2011 depth chart. Three players are listed at different positions than they had entering camp: E.J. Wilson, Vince Anderson and rookie Nick Reveiz. Wilson was considered a defensive end coming in but has slid into a defensive tackle position (he’s listed behind Gerald McCoy and Frank Okam at the three-technique spot) and opened eyes during camp so far. Anderson spent most of last season on the Bucs’ practice squad as a safety, and even saw action in three regular-season games, but he is getting a look at cornerback in this year’s camp. And, as previously noted on Buccaneers.com, Reveiz was signed out of Tennessee as a linebacker but has been working at fullback for about a week.
The aforementioned three rookies in the first slots at their position are Clayborn and Foster, as mentioned, plus long-snapper Christian Yount. The UCLA product is the only long-snapper on the list, as incumbent Andrew Economos is on the Active/Non-Football-Injury list due to his offseason Achilles tendon injury.
News flash: Tampa Bay is a young team. The 22 players listed as starters on offense and defense on the first depth chart of 2011 have an average age of 25.95 years old. Of those 22, a whopping 13 are still 25 years old or younger. Only three are 30 or older: 30-year-old Jeff Faine; 31-year-old Earnest Graham; and 36-year-old Ronde Barber, who was a rookie in the NFL when Foster was heading into third grade.
If the depth chart released on Monday were to remain as-is until the regular-season opener – and, again, Morris would strongly caution you from making that assumption – the lineup would have relatively little turnover from the season before. Of the 22 players listed on Monday’s depth chart, only four were not starters for at least half of the 2010 campaign: Trueblood (right tackle), Bennett (left end), Clayborn (right end) and Foster (middle linebacker). That number goes up by one if you consider the two kicker positions as starters, as the team has imported former Atlanta punter Michael Koenen.
The starting lineup in Friday’s preseason opener at Kansas City may strongly resemble the depth chart the team released on Monday. That game itself, however, is part of the ongoing competition that may produce some changes to the depth chart over the next month. Take a moment to peruse the Bucs’ first 2011 depth chart, and enjoy the read, but don’t assume it has all the answers.1ST 2011 Depth Chart
OFFENSE:
WR Mike Williams Sammie Stroughter Micheal Spurlock Ed Gant Raymond Webber
LT Donald Penn Demar Dotson Cory Brandon
LG Ted Larsen Brandon Carter Marc Dile
C Jeff Faine Jeremy Zuttah Matt Allen
RG Davin Joseph Derek Hardman Thomas Claiborne
RT Jeremy Trueblood James Lee Will Barker
TE Kellen Winslow Luke Stocker Daniel Hardy Ryan Purvis Nathan Overbay Jose Cruz
WR Arrelious Benn Dezmon Briscoe Preston Parker Jock Sanders Detron Lewis
QB Josh Freeman Josh Johnson Rudy Carpenter Mike Coughlin Jonathan Crompton
RB LeGarrette Blount Kregg Lumpkin Allen Bradford Mossis Madu Armando Allen
FB Earnest Graham Erik Lorig Rendrick Taylor Nick Reveiz
DEFENSE:
LDE Michael Bennett Da'Quan Bowers Kyle Moore Alex Magee
DT Gerald McCoy Frank Okam E.J. Wilson
DT Roy Miller Brian Price Al Woods
RDE Adrian Clayborn Tim Crowder George Johnson Brandon Gilbeaux
SLB Quincy Black Dekoda Watson Brandon Heath
MLB Mason Foster Tyrone McKenzie Derrell Smith
WLB Geno Hayes Adam Hayward Simoni Lawrence Victor Aiyewa
LCB Aqib Talib Myron Lewis DJ Johnson Vince Anderson
RCB Ronde Barber E.J. Biggers Anthony Gaitor Elbert Mack
SS Sean Jones Corey Lynch Dominique Harris Devin Holland
FS Cody Grimm Larry Asante Ahmad Black
SPECIAL TEAMS:
P Michael Koenen Robert Malone
PK Connor Barth Jacob Rogers
KO Michael Koenen Connor Barth
H Michael Koenen Robert Malone
LS Christian Yount
PR Micheal Spurlock Preston Parker Sammie Stroughter
KR Micheal Spurlock Preston Parker Sammie Stroughter
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Funny thing is all I did was judge him from what I seen on the field while everyone was going off of what they thought/wished he would be. I didnt have much to say his rookie season but also acknowledged he showed flashes. That game he had vs the Packers his rookie season was brilliant. He has all the intangibles, a great work ethic, has his head on his shoulders and just goes about his business like you want your franchise QB to. People hating for the sake of hating. You dont throw 25 Tds and 6 Ints in your second season, with minimal talent according to the naysayers, based on luck. Im expecting a 3-1 TD int ratio this season. Will drop slightly from last year but his TD total will go up.
As for "legit weapons", dont expect to many new faces unless its through the draft. Mark and Rah are not deviating from their build with our guys/through the draft plan. If Free puts up big numbers again this season and we have to spend expect him to get paid before we start dabbling in FA.
We also will have to make decisions on players like Tanard Jackson who will be a FA after this season. He will be reinstated after week 1, or is eligible at least, and if he picks up where he left off we will have to give him a nice contract, not to mention Mike Williams and Lagarett Blount who will be do some money soon. All our money will be spent in house.
On the weapons note, one WR to watch for this season, Desmond Briscoe. Gonna open some eyes. Mike Williams is reportedly killing it in camp, shitting on everyone, even Talib.
As far as weapons, Freeman has Williams and Winslow which are pretty good. I don't know if Briscoe will ever be more than a red zone threat because he hasn't been able to get open on a consistent basis. From what I have read in regards to the Williams v Talib battle it has been pretty even, but Talib is still recovering from an injury that landed him on the IR last season. I expect more ground and pound this year and a few flashy plays from Freeman.
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You Bucs look like they could seriously do some damage this year, BB. They went from being old codgers to being a bunch of badass youngins. It will be fun to watch them this year. Really want to see how that DL gels this year, tons of talent.PSN: jclentzthadonComment
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Raheem Tha Dream
Cody Grimm-reaper stretching
LeGarrette Blount picking up blitz'
Smashmouth Football
Mason Foster looking hott & sweaty
Mason Foster covering Sammie Stroughter!
Aqib Talib looking lost in coverage..
Earnest Graham still has it...
19 million dollar punter!!!
Best Battle In Training Camp So Far: Donald Penn vs Adrian Clayborn
LGB , MVP
Sean Jones doing what he does best. NOTHING...
Joshua Freeman (F5)
Freeman throwing a bullet.
Mike Williams catching that bullet with his bare hands :-o
LeGarrette Blount running like a mad man.
Connor Barth giving Ronde Barber a purple nurple.
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Nice pics and vids, BB.
I can't add anything to the "expectations" of the team thus far, but do agree with what you guys have said.
I do like Briscoe "County" Junior [started using him in Madden when the Bucs signed him], and the addition of punter Koenen, with his ability to also do booming kickoffs, so I've heard. We have struggled with both aspects as well.
Look for A. Black to be in a starting role soon; and an under-the-radar LB signee out of Washington, Victor Aiyewa, who can also play safety.
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