A Suggestion For Violent Hits In The NFL

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  • ralaw
    Posts too much
    • Feb 2009
    • 6663

    #31
    Originally posted by LiquidLarry2GhostWF
    Do the suits in the NFL that come up with this shit have experience playing the game?
    Probably not, but their advisors are probably doctors who deal with head injuries and the long-term consequences.
    This isn't about people playing in the league, but instead the league administrators trying to protect the league's investments.

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    • KINGOFOOTBALL
      Junior Member
      • Feb 2009
      • 10343

      #32
      NFL put very little money at all into injury research. Despite there claims it was Schutt , Bike (adams) , and Riddell that were pumping money into player safety and research. NFL only put in its chump change when there was an outcry about it.
      Helmet design was stagnant for almost 15 years. Only "air" linings were added and even then the NFL resisted until they agreed players can wear them so long as the RIDDELL label was still prominent.

      There were several tiered helmets ((the 49ers and Bills both had players with similar designs)) and soft helmet designs proposed by researchers during the 90s the league didnt seem to have any interest in putting money into. Much like the NFL ignored artificial turf issues until a "composite" substance was made that still provided the speed advantage of turf.

      NFL equipment overall is about 10 years behind where it could be. A good looking but viable solution is out there we just have to wait.
      Best reason to have a license.

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      • NAHSTE
        Probably owns the site
        • Feb 2009
        • 22233

        #33
        Making helmets that are marketed as safer or concussion-reducing is actually the opposite of what they should do.

        That will just empower these guys to use their heads as a battering ram even more.

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        • Prodigal Son
          The Greatest
          • Feb 2009
          • 2338

          #34
          Originally posted by KINGOFOOTBALL
          NFL put very little money at all into injury research. Despite there claims it was Schutt , Bike (adams) , and Riddell that were pumping money into player safety and research. NFL only put in its chump change when there was an outcry about it.
          Helmet design was stagnant for almost 15 years. Only "air" linings were added and even then the NFL resisted until they agreed players can wear them so long as the RIDDELL label was still prominent.

          There were several tiered helmets ((the 49ers and Bills both had players with similar designs)) and soft helmet designs proposed by researchers during the 90s the league didnt seem to have any interest in putting money into. Much like the NFL ignored artificial turf issues until a "composite" substance was made that still provided the speed advantage of turf.

          NFL equipment overall is about 10 years behind where it could be. A good looking but viable solution is out there we just have to wait.
          Steve Wallace and Mark Kelso.



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          • KINGOFOOTBALL
            Junior Member
            • Feb 2009
            • 10343

            #35
            lol...those really are some SpaceBalls looking helmets.
            Best reason to have a license.

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            • Senser81
              VSN Poster of the Year
              • Feb 2009
              • 12804

              #36


              Willie Lanier's helmet used to have a strip of leather padding down the middle for extra cushion.

              I've read that the best helmet design for football would be to have a shatter-resistant plexiglass face shield, which would do away with the metal facemask completely. The design would be more like a motorcycle helmet than a football helmet.

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              • KINGOFOOTBALL
                Junior Member
                • Feb 2009
                • 10343

                #37
                Originally posted by Senser81


                Willie Lanier's helmet used to have a strip of leather padding down the middle for extra cushion.

                I've read that the best helmet design for football would be to have a shatter-resistant plexiglass face shield, which would do away with the metal facemask completely. The design would be more like a motorcycle helmet than a football helmet.
                I woulda worn one. I always hated the facemasks impairment of my field of view.

                There was one concept design that always cracked me up. The helmet was essentially all plexiglass and attached to the shoulder pads. It was a very astronaut design.


                You ever see Marion Barbers facemask ? Its like an inch from his face. A plexiglass or non extended design may help curtail some of the spearing.
                Plexiglass would help player notoriety as there faces would be more recognizable.

                Ted Ginns FG kicker bar with huge visor shield was talked about at some point.

                Its not up anymore but Riddell had a video up a few years ago when they introduced the revolution. Some pretty slick concepts if your willing to throw away tradition.
                Best reason to have a license.

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                • RainboUnicorn
                  No Homo
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 1873

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
                  James Harrison and Brandon Merriweather blatantly lead with their helmets. Harrison did it twice. It's actually pretty disgusting.

                  IT'S A MANS GAME RAWR MANLY FOOTBALL RAWR!!!111!!!

                  Do you really get a thrill watching guys take cheap shots? I know I don;t watch football for that. That's not what I enjoy about the game. I don't need guys flying around helmet first to get some sort of sick thrill from a guy laid out unconscious.

                  Grow up. Susupend these assholes, and get them the fuck off the field before they paralyze someone.
                  I dont understand why its considered a cheap shot to lead with the helmet. Yeah its gonna hurt but idk I dont ever see a helmet to helmet hit or somebody leading with the helmet and think 'wow thats dirty'. IMO I see a facemask or pulling the hair of an opponent dirtier than these things.

                  Originally posted by Houston
                  You gotta look at it from the offenses point of view also. What good does a suspension do for the current opponent?

                  Take Desean Jackson for instance, he goes out of the game and The Eagles miss a very explosive player. While the defensive player who hits him gets to play the rest of the game. Then even if the defensive player gets suspended in the next game, it helps the next team not the Eagles.

                  No penalty, fine, or upcoming suspension, can make up for a offense losing one of it's best players.

                  That's not to completely count out suspensions though. Not right that the guy doing the illegal action is able to pay a small fine and play the very next game, while the guy with the concussion won't play for a few weeks.

                  I just don't like how people are trying to make the fined player seem like the victim. James Harrison gets a slap on the wrist.....let's not forget Joshua Cribbs is the one who truly got fucked and won't get any snaps for a while.


                  Yes ejections seem harsh, but if I lose my top offensive player. What do I get out of the opponent getting a fine or being suspened from games not against us?
                  Injuries are a part of the game. What about the clean hits that cause injuries? Are we going to make those who injure the other players sit out a few games? Receivers are supposed to be scared running over the middle of the field. It's part of the game.

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