Hey Jay Cutler

[FirstTimer]

He would of been an Eric Kramer fan given his era

You can idolize players that played before you started watching football...

Also how dare you disregard:

Steve Stenstrom
Steve Walsh
Jim Harbaugh
Cade McNown
Moses Moreno
PT Willis
Jim Miller
Shane Matthews
Dave Krieg
Rick Mirer

[Woy]

http://www.cutlerface.com/

Best site ever.

[shag773]

You can idolize players that played before you started watching football...

Also how dare you disregard:

Steve Stenstrom
Steve Walsh
Jim Harbaugh
Cade McNown
Moses Moreno
PT Willis
Jim Miller
Shane Matthews
Dave Krieg
Rick Mirer

Lol Steve Stenstrom...wasn't he at Stanford during the Bill Walsh era? He actually had some hype didn't he?

[manchild24]

http://www.cutlerface.com/

Best site ever.

That says it right there, every facial expression was the same, except for the his mouth was open and i think he was exhaling there that he got drafted.

[FirstTimer]

Lol Steve Stenstrom...wasn't he at Stanford during the Bill Walsh era? He actually had some hype didn't he?

Yeah. It was the whole "Montana" stuff. Walsh pumped him up to be something and everyone thought he'd do well simply because Walsh coached Montana so Stenstrom would be really good too.

He sucked.

but it also got us Tim Tebow.

Lulz.

As a former DB in high school and some junior college I played with the same QB all the way through and the guy was as tough as nails. You can't help but go out there as a defensive player when your QB is out there running dudes over and getting his jersey dirty and popping right back up.

Cutler did all that this year..except without the yelling....which I don't think really matters. Obviously Cutler is an all tiem great like the next two guys I mentioed but it's like saying Garnett is a great leader because he yells but Tim Duncan isn't because he's quiet.

People lead in different ways. Montana and Payton weren't loud. Some other guys are. I really think you'd be hard pressed to find many all-time great QB's who yelled and screamed like Tebow does.

Cutler in Chicago has been the first guy in and the last guy out of Halas Hall all season. He's done all the right things prep wise. He's gotten killed and gotten right back up. Lied to teams doctors about concussions to try and stay in etc.

As I said earlier he's incredibly talented and incredibly frustrating to watch at times but this season he really came alone and his only real implosion was against Washington, compared to 3 or 4 games the year before. He needs some help on the OLine and big time help at WR but he's coming along.

I do think Cutler would really benefit from a great position coach like Wade Wilson etc to work on mechanics but Chicago as an organization seems to be content with hiring marginal QB coaches.

Now Cutler may still have time to turn it around, but he is supposed to be in THE PRIME of his career right now and the improvement just isn't there yet. On any level...

The Jeff George comparison I don't really buy as George had problems with coaches whereever he went. Cutler was fine with Shanny. He's been fine with Smith, Turner, and Martz. The only coach Jay had a real problem with in Chicago was Pep Hamilton and that's understandable because Hamilton is terrible.

Also George and Cutler have played in different systems as well so each was expected to do different things. Cutler's teams have at least been consitantly average, whereas George's teams were pretty regularly bad.

George was a pretty big all around asshole too, where as Cutler is pretty much just a dick to the media but by all account is a real stand up guy off the field as well.

[mgoblue2290]

Tim Tebow would've finished the game.

[FirstTimer]

Tim Tebow would've finished the game.

Obviously. He would have been the Bears back up QB too.



Plus Tebow got knocked the fuck out against Kentucky and didn't come back.

Puss.

[bucky]

Right now Jay Cutler is still a middle of the road QB who has shown little to no improvement in his numbers, reads or mechanics since entering the league and it's a real shame because he could probably be a top 5 QB in the league if he did.

I heart Aaron Rodgers.

[Rush]

He's far from elite, who is making that argument Glen?

He is in the middle of the pack of the decent QB's in the league. With some continuity and having the same offensive coordinator for more then 1 season we might see him making the jump to something more.

He just lost the NFC Championship game, let's remember that.

[FirstTimer]

The leader on that team is Brian Urlacher. It's not about yelling, it's about caring. You watch Jay Cutler and it just seems like he doesn't care, ever.

Well we see 5 second shots of Cutler on the sideline. The thing is it looks like he doesn't care when they are winning too. Also, as I mentioned before if he didn't care at all he wouldn't be in the league and would be hanging out with Cade McNown. That's someone that doesn't care. By any and all accounts Cutler works his ass off. To me that shows that he cares for than a 5 second cut away durng a 3 hour broadcast.

Cutler didn't lead his team to the NFC Title game, the defense did.

Agree and Disagree. Obviously the Bears defense was a strength. But Cutler had a good season and showed progress even from 2009. It's also tough to say he didn't lead the the team to the NFC title game when he accounted for four TD's in the first playoff game.

You also have to view it based on what the Bears have..or more accuratly what they don't have. Which is a good OL and WR's. While Cutler is very talented and IMO a good QB he's not great enough to overcome those two issues on his side of the ball. Unless you are an elite QB you aren't going to overcome those things and there are only two elite QB's in the game right now. Manning and Brady.

Phil Rivers is an emotional guy who always has his team behind him.

He also has yet to win anything.

The Pats really turned it around this year once Brady seemed to start to act like he actually gave a shit.

Drew Brees can routinely be seen pumping up his defense and other teammates, as has Peyton Manning.

The difference is though that these guys do it for moments. Same as Cutler. Cutler will get up celebrate big plays etc. He got into it with Browns DC Ryan last season during a game. Cutler isn't Philip Rivers or Tim Tebow but he's not some emotionless blob out on the field either. His overall mentality/look on the field is more like Peyton Manning than anything else. Obviously Manning is light years ahead as a player right now but Manning has the same dumb look, the same bitchness towards teammates and is a straight asshole at times. Manning does it and is a leader and competitor. Cutler does it and is a punk.

I think that has a lot to do with Cutler is a dick to the media and is a quiet reserved guy off the field. Manning is doing TV spots and SNL so even when he's a douche on the field it's offset by him cussing out kids about snitching or chanting at deli meat cutters. And he wins and puts up gaudy numbers. Something Cutler hasn't done until this season winning wise. We never see Cutler at the Children's Hospitals or at fundraisers etc. So our perception is skewed a bit. Is that maybe Cutler's fault that we don't see it? Sure. But that doesn't make the perception any less incorrect in relation to what the reality of the guy is.

All I know is that when Cutler was sent away from Denver a lot of class veteran guys like Champ Bailey stood behind the move

And maybe when Cutler leaves Chicago we will hear stories but you'd hear that about most any QB when they leave from someone somewhere. I'm sure Cutler rubs people the wrong way. I get it. That doesn't mean he has to be hated though. Or is a dick head or a punk ass. It just mean him and some people don't get along.

Tebow doesn't scream on the sidelines.. He high fives the defense after a three and out, he chest bumps the punter after pinning a team inside the 10, he runs all the way down field to congratulate his receiver after a TD pass

Manning does none of that.

and he NEVER throws his hands up in disgust after an INT or incompletion the way Cutler does.

Manning does this...a lot.

Different strokes, different folks.

And you can't just blame it on the crap WRs in Chicago

Never did. Jay has to get better but to ignore that crap fest that is the Bears WR corps the last two seasons would be overlooking an obvious problem. IMO the progress I saw Cutler make this year teamed with getting a real WR would have some very nice results in 2011.

When you see your QB caring that much as another player you can't help but want to go out there and play hard for that guy. Maybe when I hear a story about Jay Cutler pointing out John Candy in the stands to settle down his teammates in the biggest game of his career you're Montana analogy would be apt... But in order for that to take place Jay Cutler would have to, you know, be on the field for that big drive.

Is he allowed to fire a INT right into a Bengals stomach later in the drive and have them drop it?

Now if you're going to tell me that Wade Wilson can fix something that Mike Shanahan and Mike Martz can't I'm gonna have to LOL at that one.

I think the misconception is that the OC or HC can eally put in the time with the QB IMO the QB gets more fundamental teaching from the position coach. Martz obviously gives Cutler things to work on but it would help more if you had an actually qualified position coach to work on this stuff with him while Martz is off doing the other million things that need to be done to run his system.

Again, the numbers aren't improving. He still threw a shit ton of INTs this year and cost the Bears just as many games as he won for them.

Disagree. He cost us the Washington game and maybe the Week 17 GB game(I'll throw it in there for the heck of it). On the flip side he had big games against the: Cowboys, Vikings(twice), Eagles, Jets, Seahawks(playoffs)

George also played for some of the shittiest organizations and coaches in the league while Cutler has had the luxury of working with some of the better offensive minds in football (save Ron Turner). And he just isn't improving. Look at Cutler's numbers this year at 27 compared to those of Jeff George, they look pretty similar.

Ignores that Cutler actually IMO got better this year especially compared to last year if you aren't looking at the numbers. He didn't have the chronic meltdowns etc. it's not all on the talent around Cutler, but most Bears fans would say that while Cutler still has room to improve and things to work on he definetly improved from last year to this year and if he had a competant OL and better WR's the numbers would look better. Cutler's improvement in certain aspects of his game this year were/are hidden in some of his surrounding cast not being nearly as good as it needs to be.

At least his dad didn't call Urban Meyer and complain about the pass protection after..

I think he needs to make another call.

[Tailback U]

The funniest thing about this thread is how FirstTimer made a thread bashing Jay Cutler and calling him out and now he is doing his best to defend him. Talk about back peddling.

The articles I posted talk about situations where Cutler straight up disrespects guys like John Elway and John Lynch, interviews where he answers questions with, "I don't know, you tell me," and rolls his eyes like he is the smartest guy to ever play QB even though he just threw 4 interceptions to the same player.

You guys can believe whatever you want to. If you love Jay Cutler and think he is the most awesome QB in the league than good for you. I don't, he is a douchebag, and I know that I'm not the only one that believes that. I base my judgment of Cutler on interviews I have seen and reports that talk about how he's brushed off legends like Lynch and Elway or how he refuses to answer phone calls from his owner. Who the fuck does he think he is?

And yes I was wrong about the Bears record but not surprised. The Bears improved in the 2nd half of the season because Martz got smart and figured out at the Bears need to run the ball and play Defense to win the game. The Bears ran the ball more than any other team in the league in the 2nd half of the season and Cutler played game manager. All he had to do was not throw 4 interceptions to the same guy and the Bears D and run game would give them the win. LOL @ Cutler leading them to the NFC championship. What a joke.

[FirstTimer]

The funniest thing about this thread is how FirstTimer made a thread bashing Jay Cutler and calling him out and now he is doing his best to defend him. Talk about back peddling.

:obama:

You guys can believe whatever you want to. If you love Jay Cutler and think he is the most awesome QB in the league than good for you.

I don't love Jay Cutler, nor do I think he's the most awesome QB in the league.

[FirstTimer]

You don't trade two number ones and Kyle Orton for a QB unless you expect him to be elite...

But you probably shouldn't trade a second round pick for a dead guy either..

Orton's immobile ass is thanking God every day he's not behind this offensive line.

[Senser81]

The funniest thing about this thread is how FirstTimer made a thread bashing Jay Cutler and calling him out and now he is doing his best to defend him. Talk about back peddling.

Yeah, it reminds me of Rush and The Gamer Slab...j/k

:turtle:

[bucky]

It's also tough to say he didn't lead the the team to the NFC title game when he accounted for four TD's in the first playoff game.

Cutler may end up being an very good QB someday. Maybe even next year. Maybe a better O-Line and WR's is what he needs.

But I got to say something about the above. Yeah, 4 TD's (two passing) is impressive, they were against a 7-9 team.

Cutler didn't lead the Bears to the playoffs and the NFCC game, the defense and special teams did. Citing that one particular game in the playoffs is pretty weak. I mean, Seattle was a 7-9 playoff team.