Bill Maher - NFL & Socialism

[ram29jackson]

At the end of the day Ram29jackson - be honest.
Would the NFL be better without a salary cap?
Would MLB be better with one?

its a good business plan , its not socialism. Its well organized capitalism.

and whats the point of knocking the MLB when I haven't seen the A's, Royals, or Tigers, go bankrupt ? Or a government told them they couldn't operate anymore ?

only a small handfull of owners give a damn about winning or more teams would compete. But as long as theres enough profit from hot dogs and banners, its just a toy for them to play with. None of it has a damn thing to do with what hardcore socialism means.

[dave]

nesper is destroying everyone in this thread, and saying all the shit I was too lazy to say while enjoying r29j trolling the fuck out of the youngsters.

Bill Maher wildly off base and sounding ridiculous, as per the usual.

If Bill Maher told the planet you had a 16-inch penis and were the greatest lover on the planet, you'd still disagree with him.

[ram29jackson]

If Bill Maher told the planet you had a 16-inch penis and were the greatest lover on the planet, you'd still disagree with him.

even Bill Maher knows he doesnt know crap about it and is going for an easy surface level definition/joke on a base topic for laughs, nothing more.

[dave]

even Bill Maher knows he doesnt know crap about it and is going for an easy surface level definition/joke on a base topic for laughs, nothing more.

How is that different than Bill O'Reilly or Glenn Beck?

[ram29jackson]

nesper is destroying everyone in this thread, and saying all the shit I was too lazy to say while enjoying r29j trolling the fuck out of the youngsters.

Bill Maher wildly off base and sounding ridiculous, as per the usual.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I95xCjQe6Jg[/ame]

[ram29jackson]

How is that different than Bill O'Reilly or Glenn Beck?

while I feel these are rational men while still pandering to a certain audience. I really dont give a damn about them and havent watched them for 2 years.



Bill Maher is just trying to stay popular in any fashion he can so he can milk invites to the playboy mansion

[dave]

while I feel these are rational men while still pandering to a certain audience. I really dont give a damn about them and havent watched them for 2 years.



Bill Maher is just trying to stay popular in any fashion he can so he can milk invites to the playboy mansion

I might buy O'Reilly being rational, but Beck???

[ram29jackson]

I might buy O'Reilly being rational, but Beck???

Degree of rationality, I dont care about as long as Bobo the happy satanist isnt getting tv time to sell easy to open ,cheap packages of red dye number 2 to the masses.

...and stop posting so much, People wont see the goofy Climax-Precious vid hahaha


...yeah, I'm really feeling that right now, baby,.. I think you know what I mean..yeah

[EmpireWF]

btw redistribution is when you take from one (like baseball) and give to another not when a group sells something and splits the profits.

I see you're train of thought. Instead of considering the NFL 32 different businesses, it's 1 overall business sending 32 shares of x amount of money to it's 32 different sectors.


Here's something that also delves into 'socialistic' features that appear in our democratic society...but it doesn't mean anything more.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/03/is_the_nfl_socialistic.html

Many economic entities that make up a free-market economy have internal constraints that could be labeled "socialist." Employees in a business corporation are expected to cooperate for the greater good of the collective. Businesses offer pensions and medical care like socialist governments, and many have unionized workforces. Families also impose values on their members of sharing wealth and obligation to the group. What is a virtue in a microcosm, however, becomes onerous when applied to an entire society. Socialism is a gateway to totalitarian government -- the totality of society is organized from above to create the best results (in theory) for everyone. Expanding socialist principles requires an expansion of the power of government to administer them. As Hayek observed sixty-six years ago, socialism must be performed by a human agency that has been given power to redistribute wealth. Power always corrupts; liberty is therefore always diminished, and socialism is always, in Hayek's words, "the road to serfdom."

[steeljake]

the theroy of modern economics: the best result comes from everyone in the group (IE the NFL) doing not only what is best for the group but what is best for them as indivuals. in a socialist concept the latter doesnt apply. in a captialist model, when one entity suceeds it raises the worth of the group, as it so happens to be in the nfl. with dallas being a monster in generating revenue and then those benfits being shared with a team like buffalo who generates popularity and fan loyalty they both help each other while benfiting individually as well.

just for the record, i didn't even watch the video. bill maher is an idiot and wishes he was dennis miller.

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

bill maher is an idiot and wishes he was dennis miller.

Noone wishes they were Dennis Miller.



All I know is ever since Obama was elected the word socialist gets thrown around like "information superhighway" did a decade ago.
I hate catch phrases.

[BrntO4Life]

bill maher is an idiot and wishes he was dennis miller.

Dennis Miller wishes he weren't Dennis Miller.

[Brewcity27]

Bill nailed it on the head also this ram29jackson seems like a real dick. :saythat:

[ram29jackson]

Bill nailed it on the head also this ram29jackson seems like a real dick. :saythat:

you must be young and stupid to agree with Bill Maher. You are basically proving you dont know crap about anything and are proud of it.

after all, youve been here for 2 weeks with 20 something posts, So shut up moron.


have a nice day.



PACKERS !!!!!!

[nesper]

I see you're train of thought. Instead of considering the NFL 32 different businesses, it's 1 overall business sending 32 shares of x amount of money to it's 32 different sectors.


Here's something that also delves into 'socialistic' features that appear in our democratic society...but it doesn't mean anything more.

it's not really my train of thought its the NFL which is the end all be all when it comes to this discussion. The first part of the segment i find to be a reach save unions. The second half is dead on socialism is just a stepping stone to totalitarian system because as it says power corrupts and implementing a socialist system requires giving certain people to much power. im completely against socialism its next stage communism and all but i wouldnt be honest if i didnt say Its a great theory but in practice is sucks and thats all that matters.