Feds to NCAA: Why no playoffs?

[Rush]

Remember when Rush would troll MM as Marshall? Now that Rush his divested his interest in VSN, could amarant = Marshall? Just a thought.

Shut your whore mouth faggot

[Warner2BruceTD]

i only went back the last two years but the SEC is 11-7 in bowl games I believe. If someone else wants to go back further but SEC isn't even that strong anymore. I think SEC teams are way over-rated.

Its because of those grueling games they played a month and a half earlier.

Duh.

[NAHSTE]

It has absolutely nothing to do with me being an Alabama fan at all. It has to do with common sense. An LSU plays a schedule infinitely more tough than Boise. If LSU goes 9-3 I think that is much more impressive than a team of the same talent(theoretical) in Boise running 13-0 with 10 blowouts because they played in a very weak conference and had a very weak OOC schedule. They should not get priority to even get into a playoff because then they have much less miles on their season than the guys at LSU do and if they are of the same talent, month off or not, Boise would still have the fresher personnel. Which then you are getting into a territory in which its much more favorable for a team like Boise who never plays anyone to begin with to win out.

ICWUTUDIDTHERE

But really, as an LSU fan who has seen my team benefit greatly from the screwy system twice in my lifetime*, I'd love to see playoffs.

I get what you are saying, and nobody would ever dare argue that the SEC slate isn't the most grueling in the country ... but if we're so tough and superior to everyone else, I say fine let's line 'em up.

Put a trophy on the line and let me play these supposed weak sisters of the poor in a round one game. Then let me run rough shod through the shithouse Big Ten or Pac-12 teams we make fun of so often. If the SEC is as tough as we hope/think/boast that is, there should be no problems.

As a fan of the sport though, I just want more compelling and legitimized competition.


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*- and Pat White's thumb

i only went back the last two years but the SEC is 11-7 in bowl games I believe. If someone else wants to go back further but SEC isn't even that strong anymore. I think SEC teams are way over-rated.

And what's the record in BCS Bowl Games again?

[Warner2BruceTD]

Yeah but Boise sure could try lobbying to get into a conference that plays tougher games rather than move to conference in which all the plausible teams are bailing out. They didn't even give it a chance to get invited to the new PAC 12. Just jumped WAC to MWC as fast as they could. Almost like they are avoiding trying to get a tough schedule.

They jumped to the MWC before the other teams bailed, brainiac.

[Rush]

Playoffs need to happen.

Fuck discussion of Boise/LSU/SEC/your opinion. We need playoffs so Appalachian State can show all you faggots what is up.

[Senser81]

Even though I disagree with him on many of his points, amarant is cool in my book. He is at least trying to discuss sports and shouldn't be run off or "jailed" by PP.

My $0.02.

[bucky]

Playoffs need to happen.

Fuck discussion of Boise/LSU/SEC/your opinion. We need playoffs so Appalachian State can show all you faggots what is up.

Appalachian State? With a playoff system, maybe Marquette would finally win a BCS Champ. They haven't lost a football game in decades. And they don't schedule ANY cupcakes.

Even though I disagree with him on many of his points, amarant is cool in my book. He is at least trying to discuss sports and shouldn't be run off or "jailed" by PP.
My $0.02.

Why is PP jailing anyone?

[Rush]

Appalachian State? With a playoff system, maybe Marquette would finally win a BCS Champ. They haven't lost a football game in decades. And they don't schedule ANY cupcakes.

Is this a joke?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Division_I_Football_Championship

[FirstTimer]

In all fairness, anybody who opposes you on any subject, ranging from football to bottled water preference is a "fucking wackjob moron"

Completely incorrect.

ICWUTUDIDTHERE

But really, as an LSU fan who has seen my team benefit greatly from the screwy system twice in my lifetime*, I'd love to see playoffs.

I get what you are saying, and nobody would ever dare argue that the SEC slate isn't the most grueling in the country ... but if we're so tough and superior to everyone else, I say fine let's line 'em up.

Put a trophy on the line and let me play these supposed weak sisters of the poor in a round one game. Then let me run rough shod through the shithouse Big Ten or Pac-12 teams we make fun of so often. If the SEC is as tough as we hope/think/boast that is, there should be no problems.

As a fan of the sport though, I just want more compelling and legitimized competition.


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This.

[bucky]

Is this a joke?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Division_I_Football_Championship

Marquette hasn't had a football team in, god I don't know how long.

[Senser81]

We'd have to at least be 15-5 because we have the most conference wins in BCS games with 15 and we have not got the most appearances Big 10 has that with 21. SEC has most championships with 7 as well.

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[Warner2BruceTD]

But they didn't take time lobbying to try to get into a larger conference did they?

They did lobby themselves into a larger league. The MWC. Then the rest of the good teams in the league bailed.

I assume this was some sort of elaborate scheme to keep playing a weak schedule, right? If that's the case, they would have just stayed in the WAC.

[Sharkweather]

You act as if Oklahoma just stepped off a plane from battling Al Queda in Iraq, while Boise was playing flag football against guys in a 40 and up league.

[St. Francisco]

People forget that people will complain if the 8th seed is say Florida, with 2 losses, and they get in over number 9 Utah State with 1 loss. Now you're just gonna hear the same shit, but it'll be 8 spots back, instead.

Oh you mean kinda like how people were bitching that Seattle made it into the playoffs over Tampa Bay and New York this year?

Look, there's controversy in every sport. Being on the bubble in college hoops is one of the most talked about subjects leading up to the tourney. The point is that we must create a fair system for determining a national champion. There will always be controversy no matter what you do, but it will be greatly reduced if you have eight teams vying for the title over two.

I'm just gonna stop you right here. You're obviously pro player and anti owner. Just by your wording. Really? Players have NO demands? The owners will ease their demands, the players will be forced to give?

The owners are trying to get more control over the companies that they OWN. You act as if the players own the NFL teams. But this is for another thread, so you can have the last word about this. I'm done hijacking here.

The players did not opt out of the existing CBA. In fact, the players are happy to continue operating under the old CBA. Here's a look at the split in years past:

Percentage of All Revenue (By League Year) received by Players

2002–51.87 %

2003–50.23 %

2004–52.18 %

2005–50.52 %

2006–52.74 %

2007–51.84 %

2008–50.96 %

2009–50.06 %

Yes...damn those players indeed, taking all of the money.

Did you know that while NFL owners complain about financial risks, players contributed $800 million to the new Meadowlands Stadium for the owners of the New York Giants and Jets, and contributed $300 million to the new Dallas Cowboys Stadium?

Did you know that NFL owners have rejected the union’s request that players get ownership stakes in return for assuming financial risk?