The 2011 Tim Tebow Tracking Thread

[Warner2BruceTD]

Weren't both of those Super Bowls?

And not regular season games against the 2nd worst team in the league?

So what? You get the point. Or maybe you don't.

It doesn't matter how bad the Dolphins are. Means nothing. Both teams are bad and going nowhere. Doesn't take away from the moment. It was great stuff. No Broncos fan will ever forget that game. And when they think about it, none of them will think to themselves, "yeah, but those Dolphins were 0-5 and we finished 5-11".

Can't we just watch sports for what it is, and have fun, without beating everything down and minimizing it? Why must we tear everything down?

[Realist]

Don't let these guys piss on your parade. That was a great win, and will go down as one of the great moments in franchise history. Exciting, riveting stuff. I'm not sure how good he is or what he'll ultimately be, but right now Tebow is a special player and Broncos fans should be enjoying every second of wherever this is going.

If I ever see ESPN do a Top 10 Denver Bronco's Comebacks Ever and see the "comeback" vs the 0-6 Dolphins, I'll LMAO

[Warner2BruceTD]

If I ever see ESPN do a Top 10 Denver Bronco's Comebacks Ever and see the "comeback" vs the 0-6 Dolphins, I'll LMAO

You guys are the most cynical, joyless bunch on earth.

[Realist]

You guys are the most cynical, joyless bunch on earth.

I can't speak for others, but I'm not. I give Tebow credit and I've been quoted as saying that I only dislike him because he went to UF, but you are going overboard stating that comeback was one of the best in Bronco's history. It was a good(ugly) win. I understand Bronco fans being happy, hell I would too to have some kind of hope but again, I think you went a little wild with that comment.

That's like me saying the comeback Alex Smith had against the Seahawks in 06 was one of the best in 49ers history (http://web.yesnetwork.com/news/artic...d=35007&vkey=9). Great at the time? Yes, but it had no bearing whatsoever on a pretty much forgotten season, and I'm sure when people think of all time moments in 49ers history, that game wont be near the top of the list.

[NAHSTE]

Again, judging him as a normal QB is missing the point. The theme here, is Tebow is a guy who has no business succeeding, but always does. I expect the crappy passing stats, that's part of the charm here. I hope he never develops as a passer, that would be boring.

So basically you are saying he's the football equivalent of David Eckstein? #GenericHeapsofPraiseforIntangibles

[FedEx227]

I forgot who mentioned that argument but it basically boils down to:

a) black athletes are natural athletes and we're routinely disappointed if they don't maximize their "potential"

b) scrappy white players are routinely praised for maximizing their limited potential

[Warner2BruceTD]

I can't speak for others, but I'm not. I give Tebow credit and I've been quoted as saying that I only dislike him because he went to UF, but you are going overboard stating that comeback was one of the best in Bronco's history. It was a good(ugly) win. I understand Bronco fans being happy, hell I would too to have some kind of hope but again, I think you went a little wild with that comment.

That's like me saying the comeback Alex Smith had against the Seahawks in 06 was one of the best in 49ers history (http://web.yesnetwork.com/news/artic...d=35007&vkey=9). Great at the time? Yes, but it had no bearing whatsoever on a pretty much forgotten season, and I'm sure when people think of all time moments in 49ers history, that game wont be near the top of the list.

No it isn't.

Again, looking at him like a normal QB is missing the point. If Kyle Orton or Alex Smith had been the QB, it would qualify as a "good" win. Tebow, with his history, aura, and unorthadox style of play made it an epic, memorable moment.

I understand that this is precisely why some people don't like him, but Tim Tebow is not Alex Smith. He just isn't. The comparisons don't work.

[Warner2BruceTD]

I forgot who mentioned that argument but it basically boils down to:

a) black athletes are natural athletes and we're routinely disappointed if they don't maximize their "potential"

b) scrappy white players are routinely praised for maximizing their limited potential

You've just figured this one out now?

[Warner2BruceTD]

So basically you are saying he's the football equivalent of David Eckstein? #GenericHeapsofPraiseforIntangibles

Honestly, I can't think of an equivalent in any sport. He's a unique figure.

[FedEx227]

You've just figured this one out now?

Well no of course I know it, but I just find it funny people continue to do it.

[Warner2BruceTD]

Well no of course I know it, but I just find it funny people continue to do it.

Seriously though, I think B is more accurate than A.

I think we are routinely disappointed by all athletes who don't maximize their potential. Anyone who fails to meet expectations is immediately labeled either lazy or a malcontent.

[FedEx227]

How many lazy white quarterbacks do you hear about?

Usually they just suck. People don't think Curtis Painter blows because he's lazy? Do they? People think he blows because he blows.

Donovan McNabb... lazy! http://minnesota.sbnation.com/minnes...zy-uncommitted

[Realist]

No it isn't.

Again, looking at him like a normal QB is missing the point. If Kyle Orton or Alex Smith had been the QB, it would qualify as a "good" win. Tebow, with his history, aura, and unorthadox style of play made it an epic, memorable moment.

I understand that this is precisely why some people don't like him, but Tim Tebow is not Alex Smith. He just isn't. The comparisons don't work.

So, if I'm understanding you correctly, because he isn't a traditional WHITE QB, we are going to look at him in a different light and anything he does outside of "normal" QB play is exceptional?

Also, are you saying that, if Tebow has an average career, since he's not a traditional QB, we should celebrate his career as if he was a great QB?

You've just figured this one out now?

Dumb argument. If it was Vick, who isn't a traditional QB, you wouldn't have this same feeling because he's black.

Something tells me you are just trying to troll. I've known you, internet wise, for awhile, and I've never heard you talk out of your ass the way you are now, unless it was dealing with the 49ers

[NAHSTE]

Honestly, I can't think of an equivalent in any sport. He's a unique figure.

Tyler Hansbrough? Same reliance on brute force, same relative lack of technical skills, and the same over-glorification.

Only difference is we're still not pretending T-Hanz is a good pro.

[FedEx227]

NBA fans can routinely call a spade a spade.

The second he got into the league there wasn't a soul with a brain saying he'd be anything more than he was. He was decent during the playoff series against the Bulls but it didn't cause anyone to call him anything more. He's a mediocre NBA player and always will be. No reason to lie to ourselves.