Rice says Randy Moss’ laziness was like a ‘slap in the face'

[bucky]

i was never pissed at randy for his "play when i want to" attitude nor was i pissed he never won a sb while with minnesota, cause it's not all on his shoulder's. if your expecting your wideout who might touch the ball 5-10 times a game to win your team a sb you're looking at the wrong player.

Dope, I just don't understand this thinking. First, his being Lazy could cost Minny wins, and that potentially could cost playoff games and a SB. Plus, a players attitude, good or bad, can influence the players around them, making them play worse or better. During Moss's years at Minny, they did to to the playoffs, even a 15-1 season. Lazy players can make the difference between winning or losing.

[dope]

Dope, I just don't understand this thinking. First, his being Lazy could cost Minny wins, and that potentially could cost playoff games and a SB. Plus, a players attitude, good or bad, can influence the players around them, making them play worse or better. During Moss's years at Minny, they did to to the playoffs, even a 15-1 season. Lazy players can make the difference between winning or losing.

i don't understand your line of thinking in that it's randy's laziness that cost minnesota the superbowl, when for any other player it's a team effort. hell look at that 15-1 season. the reason they didn't win the nfc that year was cause of missed fg and playing for overtime.

it wasn't until randy walked off the field in washington that anyone in the locker room ever said anything about randy's attitude, so i once again don't put the lack of lombardi trophies in minnesota on randy.

[bucky]

i don't understand your line of thinking in that it's randy's laziness that cost minnesota the superbowl, .

I didn't say it was, I said it very well could have made a difference. The difference between his play as was, and his play if he gave max effort in both practice and games, does make a difference, and could be THE difference.

when for any other player it's a team effort. hell look at that 15-1 season. the reason they didn't win the nfc that year was cause of missed fg and playing for overtime.

It is a team effort. And if you have a team of Lazy's, your chance of winning goes down considerably. Sure there was a missed FG, but what if Moss gives maximum effort in practice and the games, and it rubs off on team mates, maybe that game doesn't come down to ONE FIELD GOAL, or trying to go into OT.

iit wasn't until randy walked off the field in washington that anyone in the locker room ever said anything about randy's attitude,.

Never said anything before that time. But Moss's attitude didn't all of a sudden change during that game. Moss has always been Moss. That may have been the first time the team, locker room, was vocal to the press about it.

so i once again don't put the lack of lombardi trophies in minnesota on randy.

And most definitely his attitude had the potential to lose Minny SB's. That's true of ANY player on the field that doesn't try to play at there best, not just Moss.

This is why I have such a problem with Superstars that think they will get by on just Athletic ability. The difference between them playing on mostly athletic ability and them actually trying to the the best they can be, does make a difference.

I think guys like Vick cheated Atlanta fans. It's looking like he may not be cheating Philly fans, but in my opinion, he def cheated Atlanta fans. What if Vick would have been as studious as Montana, or Young? Would Atlanta have had there first SB victory? I say, maybe.

I'm not trying to "just pick on Moss".

[Senser81]

I think guys like Vick cheated Atlanta fans. It's looking like he may not be cheating Philly fans, but in my opinion, he def cheated Atlanta fans. What if Vick would have been as studious as Montana, or Young? Would Atlanta have had there first SB victory? I say, maybe.

I really doubt that Atlanta would have won a SB with Vick, regardless of study habits. Atlanta was always a pretty good team, but they never were elite. Vick wasn't good enough to make a good team great. And he always had accuracy issues.

Vick did kind of cheat Atlanta fans when he got thrown in jail. People bought season tickets with the expectation that Vick would be on the team.