It doesn’t pay to play Division I ball

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  • FedEx227
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    • Mar 2009
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    It doesn’t pay to play Division I ball

    Study: It doesn?t pay to play Division I ball - Chicago Sun-Times

    A national college athletes’ advocacy group and a sports management professor calculate in the report that if college sports shared their revenues the way pro sports do, the average Football Bowl Subdivision player would be worth $121,000 per year, while the average basketball player at that level would be worth $265,000 a year.
    I eagerly anticipate the "DAA THEY GET COLLEGE FOR FREE!!111!"

    Basically comes down to if the NCAA shared revenue like the NFL, MLB, or NBA the average college football player would be paid $121,000. Instead they are paid in something many of them don't want, something that costs their employers an extremely small amount of money, and which they can't sell.
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  • Warner2BruceTD
    2011 Poster Of The Year
    • Mar 2009
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    #2
    They get college for free.

    What does the backup FB on North Texas get paid? How about the walk on 6th team LB at Louisianan Tech?

    Slippery slope. If these kids don't wan't to be "taken advantage" of (laughable), nobody is forcing them to play football at a D1 school. Give the scholly back, i'm sure someone who appreciates it will take it.

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    • Warner2BruceTD
      2011 Poster Of The Year
      • Mar 2009
      • 26142

      #3
      And what happens when the star QB on USC decides he is worth more than everyone else and holds out?

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      • Macken
        Blah
        • Oct 2008
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        #4
        shit i hope the blacks dont see this

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        • FedEx227
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          #5
          Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
          And what happens when the star QB on USC decides he is worth more than everyone else and holds out?
          The same thing that happens with anyone who has a highly in demand skill.
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          • FedEx227
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            #6
            Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
            nobody is forcing them to play football at a D1 school.
            Well... what are the other viable options for someone with NFL aspirations?
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            • mgoblue2290
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              • Feb 2009
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              #7
              Originally posted by FedEx227
              Study: It doesn?t pay to play Division I ball - Chicago Sun-Times



              I eagerly anticipate the "DAA THEY GET COLLEGE FOR FREE!!111!"

              Basically comes down to if the NCAA shared revenue like the NFL, MLB, or NBA the average college football player would be paid $121,000. Instead they are paid in something many of them don't want, something that costs their employers an extremely small amount of money, and which they can't sell.

              Seriously? Who wouldn't want a free education? Including room and board over 4 years college costs around $80,000. That means if these guys don't go professional or fail as a professional, they still have a college degree and are debt free. Its their fault if they don't use that opportunity to get a degree that will actually land them a job. Not to mention the countless connections they have made and free clothes they are given.

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              • FirstTimer
                Freeman Error

                • Feb 2009
                • 18729

                #8
                Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
                They get college for free.

                What does the backup FB on North Texas get paid? How about the walk on 6th team LB at Louisianan Tech?

                Slippery slope. If these kids don't wan't to be "taken advantage" of (laughable), nobody is forcing them to play football at a D1 school. Give the scholly back, i'm sure someone who appreciates it will take it.
                This.

                Originally posted by FedEx227
                Well... what are the other viable options for someone with NFL aspirations?
                CFL?

                UFL?

                In the end it doesn't matter anyways because due to NFL Labor laws they'd have to sit around for two years anyways before they can even enter the draft.

                Do not care. They get a free education that is worth upwards of 40K-50K per year, not to mention the exposure and major networking ops.

                This scramble to pay college players is laughable. How quickly do you think all the sports(basically all of them except mens basketball and football) that lose money and fold would sue under TitleIX etc?

                It won't work and I don't feel bad for Deion Walker.

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                • FedEx227
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                  #9
                  Yes, the college degree they were given like 5-6 hours a day to actually focus on and by and large had most of the work done for them by tutors.

                  And lets please not forget receiving a piece of those bulk t-shirt orders. Oh boy.
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                  • FirstTimer
                    Freeman Error

                    • Feb 2009
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by mgoblue2290
                    Seriously? Who wouldn't want a free education? Including room and board over 4 years college costs around $80,000. That means if these guys don't go professional or fail as a professional, they still have a college degree and are debt free. Its their fault if they don't use that opportunity to get a degree that will actually land them a job. Not to mention the countless connections they have made and free clothes they are given.
                    Try at least 120k.

                    Stanford is almost 200k.

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                    • FirstTimer
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                      • Feb 2009
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by FedEx227
                      Yes, the college degree they were given like 5-6 hours a day to actually focus on and by and large had most of the work done for them by tutors.

                      And lets please not forget receiving a piece of those bulk t-shirt orders. Oh boy.
                      That's the student's fault/choice.

                      Still do not care.

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                      • FedEx227
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by mgoblue2290
                        Seriously? Who wouldn't want a free education?
                        I'd imagine a few members of the NBA All-Star team.
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                        • FedEx227
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by FirstTimer
                          That's the student's fault/choice.

                          Still do not care.
                          You really think if a player on Notre Dame went to Brian Kelly and said, "Hey coach, I have a really big exam tomorrow and I'd like to go to the study session do you mind if I hop out of practice an hour early?"... that Kelly would gladly allow him to go since the student has made the choice to focus on his academics?
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                          • FirstTimer
                            Freeman Error

                            • Feb 2009
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by FedEx227
                            You really think if a player on Notre Dame went to Brian Kelly and said, "Hey coach, I have a really big exam tomorrow and I'd like to go to the study session do you mind if I hop out of practice an hour early?"... that Kelly would gladly allow him to go since the student has made the choice to focus on his academics?
                            If it's Deion Walker I'm sure he could care less.

                            Plus that's an entirely different argument than the student allowing a tutor to do his work.

                            Frankly, I don't know what Kelly's reaction would be? Rage? :denarded: ? He'd be fine with it? I know the coaching staff and team at ND will work practice schedules around mid terms/ large exam times that are scheduled out as part of the school year. On a daily basis not sure how it operates but I can try and find out from some guys on the team/former players if you are really interested.

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                            • LiquidLarry2GhostWF
                              Highwayman
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 15429

                              #15
                              You can't openly pay college athletes in money making sports.

                              Title IX laws will put the kibosh on that quickly.

                              Secondly, the excuse of "...they get a free education that is worth upwards of 40K-50K per year..." The high end of that number comprises of maybe...2% of athletes. Unless you are going to a high end private school, your tuition bill per year isn't touching 50K. University of Miami? Sure. FIU? The bill is...3K-5K a year? University of Florida...5K-6K? Most in-state institutions, where most schools get a majority of their student-athletes do not come close to these mythical high end figures they "make" for going to that institution.

                              Couple that with the "like it or lump it" mentality so many people have lately, its disgusting. These kids are the life blood of a billion dollar industry where everyone BUT them is rolling on beds of money. If you don't see something wrong with that, you're an idiot. But that isn't even the real crux of the issue, the issue is, the NCAA, who is making billions off these kids are PUNISHING kids and Universities (which hurts future kids who enroll at the institutions) for making money while they make billions off of them.

                              Take away the punishment and take away the "crime" of accepting benefits as an athlete and no one has an issue how much the NCAA makes off these kids versus how much the athlete can benefit. Then it all sorts itself out. Who cares if Reggie Bush, as an 18 year old man, can play for a University where one of the Universities boosters will pay for his mom and dad's housing and supply him with a car? Who cares if a high school has a bake sale to raise money for their prize football player to go to the Army All-American Game because he is essentially homeless? Who cares if a well off family takes an underprivileged kid in and takes care of him? Who cares if a player can sell his jersey for some money or in exchange for a suit or tattoo? Awful. F-. The NCAA wants to continue the slave system they have going, and now that there are so many stories out in the public, it is hard to keep that rationale going.

                              You can't fight extra benefits, you can't...it has been going on forever and it goes on at every University to some degree and now that the NCAA is making billions off of these same athletes they are punishing, it is very hard to keep the veil on this ridiculous institution.

                              Or, you could always allow basketball and football players to go pro without college (one of the other real villains in all of this are the NFL and NBA who love the idea of a free developmental system that they don't have to legislate or put money into)...much like hockey and baseball and all other sports where you can go pro at 18, make money in regards to sponsorships, etc.

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