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I think it's a real interesting note that - according to the article LL put up - the moniker 'student-athlete' derives from the NCAA trying to avoid giving workmen's comp money to the widow of a former athlete. It was created and has been used to avoid liability.
Anyway, it seems unjust that the NCAA and the universities profit more from the performance of the players than the players profit from their experience with the university. That said, the point has been very well made that it's very possibly more the NFL's fault than any other body's. I just find it very irresponsible of the NCAA when they're supposed to be a non-profit organization.
I'm all for the endorsement idea.
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This is exactly what I came in here to say. In no way should the universities be paying these student-athletes, but if Under Armour wants to come in and offer someone (from any collegiate sport) an endorsement deal, I don't see why that would be an issue.
Like Atlas said, these student-athletes are pampered enough as it is on campus. I see this even at my D1-AA school, where during the winter you can find every player on the basketball team wearing brand new Dre Beats and Steep Tech NorthFace jackets. The easiest classes I've taken were the ones that were filled with athletes. They are allowed to pick their schedule almost a week before everyone else and their advisor picks out the easiest professors for them. All of their GPAs should be at least a 3.0 because of this, so finding a job after college shouldn't be TOO hard.Comment
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College degrees don't really equate to jobs anymore though. Yeah, the unemployment rate for non-degrees is 8%, but even those with a degree is still 4%. Even if they have decent GPAs if it's obvious they have no working experience, internships, etc. they'll be hard pressed to find real good jobs in whatever field.Comment
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The national unemployment rate is over double that. I see what you are saying but excuse me if I don't hold a moment of silence for people with college degrees who can't find work.
And let's be realistic about this, those 4% of people with degrees stand a hell of a better chance at finding work when the job market recovers than people without degrees anyways so the point is moot.Comment
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its actually much worse for recent college grads:
According to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics' Current Population Survey, the unemployment rate for college graduates between the ages of 20 to 24-year-olds soared five percentage points in the past month -- from 7.1 percent in May to 12.1 percent in June, compared with a three percent jump during the same period last year.Comment
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This is part of the problem in this debate, right here.
Why must everything be "fair" and "just"? Where did this idea come from that if somebody is making money, and you indirectly contribute, that you are entitled some sort of piece of that money?
The tradeoff is made clear to these athletes. You play for us, we won't charge you to come here. Whether the athlete values the education or not is irrelevent. If they don't think this tradeoff is fair, well, you know my answer to that. They have a bevy of options.
And again, too much focus on pro bound athletes here. Tiny percentage. Miniscule percentage. This idea that college athletes don't value the scholarship is ridiculous. Why are we so concerned with the Dwayne Wade's getting paid? They are going to get paid down the road, THANKS TO THE EXPOSURE THEY GOT FROM THE COLLEGE. And do you really think an of these players matter? They don't. There will be 100k at Michigan this week no matter who is playing.
But yeah, these poor kids, my god are they being scammed!
They aren't entitled to shit beyond what they already receive. Quite frankly, its not even their business how much money the schools or the NCAA generate.Comment
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Yes, the job market is bad. We get it, but again people with degrees stand a tremendously better chance of getting hired than those with no degrees once the job market turns. Plus, I always hate early-mid summer hiring projections. A lot of companies go into hiring freezes around July for tax/fiscal year reasons. I always prefer the numbers for an entire year rather than looking at a 2-3 month span when many companies aren't outwardly hiring anyways.Comment
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i agree with everything you said, but paying these kids for playing their sport in college will only make things worse...
these little fuckers expect to come out of college, having not had to deal with real world things (bills, 9-5 jobs, etc), and expect to make $90k a year...
the funniest thing i ever heard in an interview was when a former Ohio State FB told me he thought he was worth twice what we were offering to pay him (solely b/c he played football at OSU)... needless to say, he didnt get the job and was working at Disney World as a gate security guard (the wand waver) three months later (and is still working there, making $9 an hour)... but yea, lets pay them and make the whole thing much, much worse...
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Fuck you and fuck your stories.Originally posted by Atlasthese little fuckers expect to come out of college, having not had to deal with real world things (bills, 9-5 jobs, etc), and expect to make $90k a year...
the funniest thing i ever heard in an interview was when a former Ohio State FB told me he thought he was worth twice what we were offering to pay him (solely b/c he played football at OSU)... needless to say, he didnt get the job and was working at Disney World as a gate security guard (the wand waver) three months later (and is still working there, making $9 an hour)... but yea, lets pay them and make the whole thing much, much worse...
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