Vikings close to trading for QB...

[dave]

JP has raw skills to play in the NFL. Sadly for him he can't make a read or at times he can't make an accurate short slant to save his life.

Look at the Bills' receivers.
Other than Evans, they all suck and can't get open.
Has Losman made bad reads? Absolutely.
Does he try to force the ball sometimes? Yup.

But if you have receivers like the Bills have, an underachieving offensive line and bad coaching, it's not gonna help the QB.

[Leftwich]

But Freeman won't be playing against the Vikings secondary.

Good call.

[Archer]

[FirstTimer]

I think if you look at the numbers objectively, you might wanna reconsider that argument.

.

Umm no, I wouldn't. Losman lost his job because he sucked and Trent Edwards wasn't screwing up every other play as Losman was. JP is trash.

JP was a sub .500 QB with the same teams that Trent Edwards had in playoff position.

Grossman has been one half away from winning a Super Bowl.

[dave]

Umm no, I wouldn't. Losman lost his job because he sucked and Trent Edwards wasn't screwing up every other play as Losman was. JP is trash.

JP was a sub .500 QB with the same teams that Trent Edwards had in playoff position.

Grossman has been one half away from winning a Super Bowl.

Grossman is Losman without the scrambling skills.
Grossman didn't lead that Bears to the Super Bowl, your defence did.
That's like saying Trent Dilfer led the Ravens to their Super Bowl.

[FirstTimer]

Look at the Bills' receivers.
Other than Evans, they all suck and can't get open.
Has Losman made bad reads? Absolutely.
Does he try to force the ball sometimes? Yup.

But if you have receivers like the Bills have, an underachieving offensive line and bad coaching, it's not gonna help the QB.

Yeah and Grossman had world beaters at WR in Chicago.

[dave]

Yeah and Grossman had world beaters at WR in Chicago.

But Grossman sucks too. You already know that.

[FirstTimer]

Grossman is Losman without the scrambling skills.
Grossman didn't lead that Bears to the Super Bowl, your defence did.
That's like saying Trent Dilfer led the Ravens to their Super Bowl.

I never said that Grossman "lead" the Bears anywhere.

On top of the fact Grossman's play in the playoffs sure as hell did his part in helping the the Bears to the Super Bowl. The Bears defense for the last half of 2006 was anything but impressive.

[FirstTimer]

But Grossman sucks too. You already know that.

Grossman at his best>>Losman at his best.

[FirstTimer]

OMG you two. Losman and Grossman both suck, and picking which one is better is like picking what sack of shit smells better. Who cares? They shouldn't start for a team again, although they can add depth to a team.

So could I just by virtue of being on the roster

[dave]

OMG you two. Losman and Grossman both suck, and picking which one is better is like picking what sack of shit smells better. Who cares? They shouldn't start for a team again, although they can add depth to a team.

Don't mind us.
FT and I get like this from time to time.

[Hasselbeck]

I think if you look at the numbers objectively, you might wanna reconsider that argument.

Losman only lost his job because of injury ... and the Bills haven't given their QBs very good supporting casts.
One above average receivers (Evans) and Lynch came on board after Losman lost his job.
I still think Losman has some upside ... and could succeed if given a better supporting cast.

And Losman had his chances to win his job back after Edwards was hurt and playing like shit.

Point is.. he's about as likely to become a good starting QB at this point as Joey Harrington is.

[FirstTimer]

OMG you two. Losman and Grossman both suck, and picking which one is better is like picking what sack of shit smells better. Who cares?.

Which all goes onto proving my point that the NFC North's QB's are putrid. Honestly Grossman would be a hell of a fit in Minny. A great running game, good OL, good defense and you could reunite him with Berrian at WR and Sidney Rice is the type of WR that could drastically help Grossman as well.

[Nukleopatra]

After arguing with people who insisted that Tom Brady has had one one good season, and that the Patriots would be nothing without Randy Moss (3 super bowls and all,) I really have nothing to say about this.

I'm still speechless.

Sage > Tom? I guess.

[jaxjaggywires]

Vikings should bite the bullet and trade for Cassell...at least he was able to put multiple good games together this past season.