Ex-Raiders QB Russell pins failures on sleep apnea

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  • Senser81
    VSN Poster of the Year
    • Feb 2009
    • 12804

    #16
    Originally posted by NAHSTE
    Based on what? Work ethic is not the same as intelligence.
    JaMarcus Russell

    Position: QB
    Height: 6-6 Weight: 265 lbs.

    Born: August 9, 1985 in Mobile, AL
    College: LSU

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    • ralaw
      Posts too much
      • Feb 2009
      • 6663

      #17
      Originally posted by Raidersabc123
      He never owns up to anything ............would never take fault
      I'd say this is his real problem.

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      • FirstTimer
        Freeman Error

        • Feb 2009
        • 18729

        #18
        Originally posted by NAHSTE
        You really think the Raiders were losing games because of him? Those teams were coached and constructed horribly. No QB would have made right in that situation.

        JaMarcus was a high risk pick who had to be in the perfect situation to succeed, IMO. He was in the most imperfect situation he could find himself in, and yeah, his own flaws only exacerbated that.

        I love the guy and I will always remember the countless jizzworthy memories he gave me, but he had more red flags than the Chinese capital. He was always going to be a disaster on the Raiders. Terrible organization for a kid with makeup issues to be given the keys to.
        Quinn>Russell

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        • Deviant
          Yes, please.
          • Nov 2008
          • 2861

          #19
          Fuck Russell. He's got his money. His dumbass contract is one of the main reasons we had the lockout.

          Apnea? He didn't give up 42 points? You had more turnovers than touchdowns in your entire career! You missed receivers by miles, threw into triple coverages and hit cornerbacks in stride. How about the fact that you just blow?


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          • NAHSTE
            Probably owns the site
            • Feb 2009
            • 22233

            #20
            Originally posted by Deviant
            Fuck Russell. He's got his money. His dumbass contract is one of the main reasons we had the lockout.
            LOL right. Because he's the only number 1 pick to ever receive a large contract. It's all his fault. Matt Ryan and Sam Bradford and Matthew Stafford and Alex Smith all signed reasonable deals of modest amounts. But this greedy darkie fat ass just had to buck the system and ask for lots of money, breaking the contract system in the process.

            Why are you so mad at him?

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            • Scikotic
              Straight out the Asylum
              • Apr 2011
              • 369

              #21
              Originally posted by Deviant
              Fuck Russell. He's got his money. His dumbass contract is one of the main reasons we had the lockout.

              Apnea? He didn't give up 42 points? You had more turnovers than touchdowns in your entire career! You missed receivers by miles, threw into triple coverages and hit cornerbacks in stride. How about the fact that you just blow?
              Most overpaid piece of trash to ever hit the NFL.

              Seeing pictures of him walking around in a fur coat with that stupid ass grin has to make Raiders fans want to puke.

              Al Davis......sigh. May he rest in peace.

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              • Deviant
                Yes, please.
                • Nov 2008
                • 2861

                #22
                Originally posted by NAHSTE
                LOL right. Because he's the only number 1 pick to ever receive a large contract. It's all his fault. Matt Ryan and Sam Bradford and Matthew Stafford and Alex Smith all signed reasonable deals of modest amounts. But this greedy darkie fat ass just had to buck the system and ask for lots of money, breaking the contract system in the process.

                Why are you so mad at him?
                You can't be serious.

                Take your LSU blinders off. Yes, there are other number one picks with those huge contracts, but there are HUGE differences between Russell and all the guys you just mentioned.

                First off, none of the guys you mentioned held out for money past the regular season. Alex Smith, if I remember correctly, even took a pay cut.

                Second, none of the guys you mentioned ever came into a training camp at 300 pounds. Russell's work ethic is awful. His own life coach, John Lucas, gave up on him.

                Third, none of the guys you mentioned were cut. As mentioned, Alex Smith took a pay cut, but the Niners still wanted him and he legitimately has fought his whole career for his starting job. I can at least credit him for that. Russell was flat out given the axe because the Raiders didn't want to deal with him anymore and they wanted to get as much money as they could back from him.

                Last, all of the guys you mentioned are still in the NFL and are all still starting. No team in the NFL wants anything to do with JaMarcus Russell.

                Why am I mad at him? He's awful and just can't accept that he played awful. He can't just come out and say "my work ethic is terrible" or "I have an addiction to purple drank". No, it's "I have apnea" or "I didn't let the other team score 42 points." Well, first, there are players in the NFL with far more severe health problems than fucking apnea who are great players (Jay Cutler and diabetes, Ed Reed's neck, Philip Rivers played with a fucking torn ACL). And yes, you didn't allow 42 points, but you didn't help your defense with all of your goddamn turnovers. So yes, some of the blame falls on you.

                Yes, he's a greedy fat ass. No, it's not because he's black. He suffers from the exact same problem Ryan Leaf had (which is why I hate Leaf as well). They couldn't accept the fact that THEY were the PROBLEM.


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                • NAHSTE
                  Probably owns the site
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 22233

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Deviant
                  You can't be serious.
                  No, you can't be serious. Of all the things to criticize JaMarcus Russell for, you are gonna pin the absurd rookie contract scale on him too? Yeah, since he's the only #1 pick to ever hold out for more money.



                  And I think you should do some research on sleep apnea before you compare it to diabetes. Both are potentially fatal, bro. Everything else you have railed on him for in that wall of text is probably true, and has already been said by me before, so not sure why you spilled so much digital ink over it.

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                  • Senser81
                    VSN Poster of the Year
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 12804

                    #24
                    Originally posted by JayRock
                    Every single thread I go into NAHSTE is starting an argument.
                    Yeah, he's been very argumentative/pissy as of late. Must be getting nervous before the Bama game.

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                    • Deviant
                      Yes, please.
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 2861

                      #25
                      Originally posted by NAHSTE
                      No, you can't be serious. Of all the things to criticize JaMarcus Russell for, you are gonna pin the absurd rookie contract scale on him too? Yeah, since he's the only #1 pick to ever hold out for more money.



                      And I think you should do some research on sleep apnea before you compare it to diabetes. Both are potentially fatal, bro. Everything else you have railed on him for in that wall of text is probably true, and has already been said by me before, so not sure why you spilled so much digital ink over it.
                      So you're saying that his huge waste of a contract wasn't one of the reasons we had the lockout? Yes, I'm aware of the others contracts that were bigger than Russell's. I said that his contract was one of the reasons why there was a lockout.

                      Of course apnea is potentially fatal. It's your respiratory muscles completely stopping. But from what I know, apnea can occur from drugs and I have every reason to believe this stems from his problems with codeine.


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                      • NAHSTE
                        Probably owns the site
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 22233

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Senser81
                        Yeah, he's been very argumentative/pissy as of late. Must be getting nervous before the Bama game.
                        I think there has just been an unusually high number of off-base arguments presented here lately. Normally yourself and guys like w2b and FT will deconstruct these terrible arguments but it appears you guys are suffering from fatigue and leaving I alone to carry the banner for the anti-tard movement.

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                        • Senser81
                          VSN Poster of the Year
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 12804

                          #27
                          Originally posted by NAHSTE
                          I think there has just been an unusually high number of LSU-related arguments presented here lately.
                          FIXED

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                          • NAHSTE
                            Probably owns the site
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 22233

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Senser81
                            FIXED

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                            • KINGOFOOTBALL
                              Junior Member
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 10343

                              #29
                              Sleep Apnea sucks.
                              Best reason to have a license.

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