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  • ZoneBlitz
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    • Feb 2009
    • 1844

    #31
    Originally posted by FirstTimer
    But what happens if the teams play twice in this set up and they split the matchups?
    The same thing that happens in the NFL when 2 teams play during the regular season and then meet again in the playoffs.

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    • Senser81
      VSN Poster of the Year
      • Feb 2009
      • 12804

      #32
      Originally posted by ZoneblitZ
      The same thing that happens in the NFL when 2 teams play during the regular season and then meet again in the playoffs.
      But the NFL you have more games, fewer teams, and a playoff system that is designed to determine the winner on the field. In the NCAA you have fewer games, more teams, and a political morass to decide the overall champion.

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      • ZoneBlitz
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        • Feb 2009
        • 1844

        #33
        Originally posted by Senser81
        But the NFL you have more games, fewer teams, and a playoff system that is designed to determine the winner on the field. In the NCAA you have fewer games, more teams, and a political morass to decide the overall champion.
        Which is why college football is a joke. And im not sure what your point is. Just because theres more teams/less games doesnt mean you cant implement a logical system.

        Under my proposal, say for example LSU & Alabama were to meet again...the 1st game during the regular season would decide who gets home-field...and the conf championship game decides who wins the conference.

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        • ZoneBlitz
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          • Feb 2009
          • 1844

          #34
          Originally posted by 1ke
          I for one want chaos, as chaos may be the only way we can see some change. Then again, I like LSU so thats my conundrum.
          I always root for chaos. Its sad though, you enjoy the games all season long then root for it to all fall apart.

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          • FirstTimer
            Freeman Error

            • Feb 2009
            • 18720

            #35
            Originally posted by ZoneblitZ
            The same thing that happens in the NFL when 2 teams play during the regular season and then meet again in the playoffs.
            But if you can avoid it in college why even have it be a possibility?

            It makes no sense to see an obvious flaw, have it be avoidable, but still be fine with it because the "NFL does it"...even though the NFL is based completely on objective on the field results and the BCS obviously isn't so there is more "control" of the system in a lot of ways.

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            • ZoneBlitz
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              • Feb 2009
              • 1844

              #36
              Originally posted by FirstTimer
              But if you can avoid it in college why even have it be a possibility?

              It makes no sense to see an obvious flaw, have it be avoidable, but still be fine with it because the "NFL does it"...even though the NFL is based completely on objective on the field results and the BCS obviously isn't so there is more "control" of the system in a lot of ways.
              Wait, who says it needs to be avoided? Who says its a flaw?

              LSU-Alabama is a game everyone would love to see twice.

              Who would rather see LSU-Georgia instead of LSU-Alabama a 2nd time?
               
              nobody

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              • LiquidLarry2GhostWF
                Highwayman
                • Feb 2009
                • 15428

                #37
                Difference between Oklahoma State and Houston?

                Okie St forces more turnovers...about it.

                Total O - 3 v. 1


                Total D - 101 v. 67
                Scoring D - 62 v. 41
                Turnovers - 1 v. 28

                Teams are rather identical makeups as teams. Both would lose to one of these SEC teams.

                I still think the best MATCHUP is one of these SEC defenses v. Andrew Luck and Stanford. Stanford just doesn't matchup well on defense against Oregon, but I think the matchup is solid for one of those top SEC teams (LSU/Bama) to play Stanford. Boise State as well.

                One of these high octane offenses with pedestrian defenses intrigues me none. I see little to no difference between the makeup of Okie State and Houston. The result would be the same in the title game against one of the SEC defenses.

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                • FirstTimer
                  Freeman Error

                  • Feb 2009
                  • 18720

                  #38
                  Originally posted by ZoneblitZ
                  Wait, who says it needs to be avoided? Who says its a flaw?
                  Me.

                  I thought that was obvious from me saying so.

                  Are you dense?


                  Originally posted by ZoneblitZ
                  LSU-Alabama is a game everyone would love to see twice.
                  Ok?

                  And if they split does it really determine who the better team is?

                  If the point of getting this college football thing right is to have as few "points of contention" as possible I'm not sure how you can allow something like that to happen.

                  Frankly, I've seen LSU vs Alabama. I've seen the result. I'm fine moving on to seeing them play someone new.

                  Originally posted by ZoneblitZ
                  Who would rather see LSU-Georgia instead of LSU-
                  I'd rather see a NCG that makes sense.

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                  • ZoneBlitz
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                    • Feb 2009
                    • 1844

                    #39
                    Are you even reading this thread properly? I never said LSU-Alabama should meet for the NCG, i said they should meet for the SEC championship.

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                    • LiquidLarry2GhostWF
                      Highwayman
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 15428

                      #40
                      Originally posted by ZoneblitZ
                      Are you even reading this thread properly? I never said LSU-Alabama should meet for the NCG, i said they should meet for the SEC championship.
                      LSU already beat Alabama...Alabama is thus, eliminated. Simple as that.

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                      • ZoneBlitz
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                        • Feb 2009
                        • 1844

                        #41
                        Originally posted by LiquidLarry2GhostWF
                        LSU already beat Alabama...Alabama is thus, eliminated. Simple as that.
                        But theres an SEC championship game left to be played...why should shitty Georgia be in it and have an upset chance at winning the conference? Alabama is far better & more deserving.

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                        • FirstTimer
                          Freeman Error

                          • Feb 2009
                          • 18720

                          #42
                          Originally posted by ZoneblitZ
                          Are you even reading this thread properly?
                          Are you?

                          Originally posted by ZoneblitZ
                          I never said LSU-Alabama should meet for the NCG, i said they should meet for the SEC championship.
                          And I've already seen them play once. I saw the result. I'm fine moving on.

                          I don't know how you aren't understanding this...........

                          Them playing again and (possibly)splitting the series would leave room for disagreement and debate in the determination of a NCG game participant. Something everyone is trying to avoid in college. If this point of disagreement/flaw(imo) can be avoided, whch it can, it should be. Staring this flaw/issue in the face seeing it, knowing what it could cause, and still running head first into it is retarded.

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                          • ZoneBlitz
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                            • Feb 2009
                            • 1844

                            #43
                            Originally posted by FirstTimer
                            Are you?

                            And I've already seen them play once. I saw the result. I'm fine moving on.

                            I don't know how you aren't understanding this...........

                            Them playing again and (possibly)splitting the series would leave room for disagreement and debate in the determination of a NCG game participant. Something everyone is trying to avoid in college. If this point of disagreement/flaw(imo) can be avoided, whch it can, it should be. Staring this flaw/issue in the face seeing it, knowing what it could cause, and still running head first into it is retarded.
                            There would be no disagreement if they split the series. The first game played was a regular season game, the next game played would be the SEC championship game. The winner of the SEC championship game wins the conference. Why even have a conference championship game if the 2 best teams wont be in it?

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                            • shag773
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 2721

                              #44


                              The BCS allows for preserving the significance of the regular season, which is the most meaningful in sports.
                              If thats the case, than how does LSU beating Alabama hold any significance if they play in the NC game. If the regular season is a glorified "playoff", than wouldn't they be eliminated from the NC race if LSU is in the game?

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                              • FirstTimer
                                Freeman Error

                                • Feb 2009
                                • 18720

                                #45
                                Originally posted by ZoneblitZ
                                There would be no disagreement if they split the series.
                                LOL at this.

                                You must live in some fairy tale land.

                                Naive little fucker.

                                Originally posted by ZoneblitZ
                                Why even have a conference championship game if the 2 best teams wont be in it?
                                What if Georgia wins? Wouldn't that kind of shoot that idea in the foot?

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                                Somewhat off subject:

                                Do you think the NFL should get rid of the WC spots and other division winner spots and just have the two top teams go right to the NFCCG?

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