Wacky BCS scenarios

[ZoneBlitz]

So take a page out of what the Pac 10 used to do. NO Conference Championship.

Just play everyone in your conference once and let the tie breakers decide.

Conference championship games are good, why reduce the amount of good games?

[ZoneBlitz]

My question to you would be, if you want it more like the NFL than why would you want to disregard the division format and just take the best 2 teams in the conference?

Take the NFL in 2010 for example. Under your provisions, it would be like saying "I know the Seahawks won their division, but the Buccaneers had a better record, so they will get the playoff nod.

It wouldn't be like the NFL. As a matter of fact, it's probably closer to the current BCS format if you want to know the truth.

That's fine. But my problem with Zone's point is that he kind of flip flops with his argument. On one side he says he wants college football to mirror pro football. But then, in the same post, he will denounce the idea of divisional play and just want the 2 best teams in the conference, which is not close to how the NFL handles their playoff system.

I'm in favor of a playoff system. However, if you are going with the BCS system, and every pro BCS guy will scream that it makes the regular season more meaningful, than for me, Alabama and Oregon are out until LSU is no longer in the championship picture.

Just because i want it more like the NFL doesnt mean i want it exactly like the NFL. I meant more like the NFL in the sense of elimination games where the winner advances (playoffs).

[ZoneBlitz]

3 problems:

1) Too many teams = with so many teams deserving of a title shot, having two teams play each other twice is the ultimate circle jerk.

2) Too few games = the schedule is too short to accomodate rematches. Even within conferences, there aren't enough games.

3) No postseason tournament = with only 2 teams having a chance to win the title in the current postseason setup, allowing non-divisional winners to continue to play meaningful postseason games further limits the pool of potential title winners.

1) & 2) Rematches already happen frequently. Last year Auburn played South Carolina twice.

3) I would obviously get rid of the BCS.

[Bomberooski]

Conference championship games are good, why reduce the amount of good games?

I'm just looking at coming up with clear cut conference champions

[Senser81]

1) & 2) Rematches already happen frequently. Last year Auburn played South Carolina twice.

And they suck. Under your plan, these rematches would happen even more frequently. So lets take something that already sucks, and ensure that it will happen more often. Sounds like a good plan.

[Bomberooski]

And they suck. Under your plan, these rematches would happen even more frequently. So lets take something that already sucks, and ensure that it will happen more often. Sounds like a good plan.

Just diminishes the excitement of a one game a year battle.

[ZoneBlitz]

And they suck. Under your plan, these rematches would happen even more frequently. So lets take something that already sucks, and ensure that it will happen more often. Sounds like a good plan.

Who says they would happen more frequently? This year it would produce a rematch, but in other situations it can actually avoid rematches.

[Senser81]

Who says they would happen more frequently? This year it would produce a rematch, but in other situations it can actually avoid rematches.

It would produce more rematches. I can show you the math, but I don't want to explain it. Short version: SEC has 6 teams in a division. Teams play 8 conference games. 5 of those 8 games are against divisional foes, whom they have no chance of facing again. 3 of those games are against other conference foes, whom they have a chance of facing in the title game. So there is a 3 in 6 chance of a rematch (50%, in simplistic terms). If you eliminate divisions, then you have an SEC team playing 8 of their 11 conference rivals. So there is an 8 in 11 chance of a rematch (73%). So you are basically increasing your chances of a rematch by a factor of 50%.

[ZoneBlitz]

Nevermind it wouldnt actually ever prevent rematches (i was thinking of the Pac-10 & Big-10 before they expanded)

EDIT: Fuck you beat me to it. I still dont see a rematch as a horrible thing though. You honestly rather see LSU-Georgia instead of LSU-Alabama again? Im not saying you're wrong i just dont see rematches as being so bad. I would much rather see LSU-Alabama again instead of LSU-Georgia. Im sure many would too.

[ZoneBlitz]

Anyone who hates rematches is going to hate my idea. I dont hate them at all. 2 great games is better than 1.

[Senser81]

Nevermind it wouldnt actually ever prevent rematches (i was thinking of the Pac-10 & Big-10 before they expanded)

EDIT: Fuck you beat me to it. I still dont see a rematch as a horrible thing though. You honestly rather see LSU-Georgia instead of LSU-Alabama again? Im not saying you're wrong i just dont see rematches as being so bad. I would much rather see LSU-Alabama again instead of LSU-Georgia. Im sure many would too.

I think that when these conferences start expanding to be 14-team or 16-team conferences, then I think you have to have divisional play. I think the schedule would be too skewed otherwise, because you wouldn't have even conference schedules. A team could play 8 conference games, yet still miss out on playing the three toughest teams in the conference, etc.

[ZoneBlitz]

I think that when these conferences start expanding to be 14-team or 16-team conferences, then I think you have to have divisional play. I think the schedule would be too skewed otherwise, because you wouldn't have even conference schedules. A team could play 8 conference games, yet still miss out on playing the three toughest teams in the conference, etc.

I agree. In that case id be ok with divisions because they would be 8 teams, not 6, and there would be a lesser chance of a mediocre team winning the division.

[mgoblue2290]

I would love LSU and OK St to lose a game a piece and watch the pandemonium ensue. You thought Sandusky got a lot of run on sports radio???

It might be better for the argument against the BCS then having multiple undefeated teams. It shows the ultimate flaw in that losing earlier is better than losing later which makes zero sense.

D-1 college football is the most flawed organization in all of sports.

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

It might be better for the argument against the BCS then having multiple undefeated teams. It shows the ultimate flaw in that losing earlier is better than losing later which makes zero sense.

D-1 college football is the most flawed organization in all of sports.

It is flawed because of greed, my bro-friend.

[mgoblue2290]

It is flawed because of greed, my bro-friend.

Occupy NCAA?