The OFFICIAL Peyton Manning Sweepstakes thread...

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  • Bear Pand
    RIP Indy Colts
    • Feb 2009
    • 5945

    #16
    Originally posted by MrBill
    You guys are going to see a different side of Manning if the Colts draft Luck. He won't be the happy go aww shucks guy that everybody loves. He'll turn from face to heel just like Favre did when the Packers decided it was time for Rodgers to take over.
    Manning was never all that nice to begin with IMO.

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    • Houston
      Back home
      • Oct 2008
      • 21229

      #17
      He needs to do this to Jim Caldwell.

      [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQtX6dm2KG8"]Peyton Manning goes crazy [FULL CLIP] - YouTube[/ame]

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      • ralaw
        Posts too much
        • Feb 2009
        • 6662

        #18
        Someone once said its better to trade someone a year early than a year too late. If Luck is what everyone believes him to be I don't see the point in keeping him on the bench to watch Manning. We’ve seen what Dalton, Newton, Bradford, Flacco, Ryan, etc have done and none of them had anywhere near the expectations that Luck has. Given the expectatioins I'd think he'd be ready to play from day 1, no?

        Manning isn't getting any younger, so why not just trade him and rebuild using the draft picks? Obviously, this organization is going to have to tear it down, as its obvious they built it around Manning's brilliance. As great as Manning has been organizations have to move on (Montana/Favre) when they have another option.

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        • NAHSTE
          Probably owns the site
          • Feb 2009
          • 22233

          #19
          Trading the Luck pick would recoup way more than trading an aging Manning. Not to mention it would alienate the fan base far less.

          GREAT IDEA THOUGH, GUYS!

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          • mgoblue2290
            Posts too much
            • Feb 2009
            • 7174

            #20
            Others already said it but if the Colts draft Luck, they should definitely keep Manning. Luck being Manning's under study would do wonders for him. At the end of the day Luck is still only a prospect. The Colts trading Manning and then throwing Luck out there next year would be a disaster. This team is awful, even if they traded Manning and got several draft picks, they would still have a ways to go.

            Personally, I'd trade out of the first pick to someone who wants Luck and then try and build the team up a bit. Manning can take a below average team to the playoffs, Luck won't be able to. If Manning can get healthy again, he's still got 3 years or so left and I'm sure another top QB prospect will come around.

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            • NAHSTE
              Probably owns the site
              • Feb 2009
              • 22233

              #21
              Originally posted by mgoblue2290
              Others already said it but if the Colts draft Luck, they should definitely keep Manning. Luck being Manning's under study would do wonders for him. At the end of the day Luck is still only a prospect. The Colts trading Manning and then throwing Luck out there next year would be a disaster. This team is awful, even if they traded Manning and got several draft picks, they would still have a ways to go.

              Personally, I'd trade out of the first pick to someone who wants Luck and then try and build the team up a bit. Manning can take a below average team to the playoffs, Luck won't be able to. If Manning can get healthy again, he's still got 3 years or so left and I'm sure another top QB prospect will come around.
              NOT FOR ANOTHER TWENTY YEARS! LUCK IS THE LAST GOOD QB PROSPECT EVER!!

              - The Narrative

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              • DSpydr84
                I need a sub
                • Oct 2008
                • 2605

                #22
                Yeah, I think trading Manning sets this franchise further back than it already is. Let's not forget that they've yet to win a single game without #18 back there this season.

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                • mgoblue2290
                  Posts too much
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 7174

                  #23
                  Originally posted by NAHSTE
                  NOT FOR ANOTHER TWENTY YEARS! LUCK IS THE LAST GOOD QB PROSPECT EVER!!

                  - The Narrative
                  People act like Luck is going to come in and just be this good player. He won't. He probably won't even end up being as good as Peyton is. This season shows how important Peyton is to that team and just how valuable he really is. If you can even get 2 more years out of Peyton, you do it. Especially if they can trade that number 1 pick, get some guys, this team is a contender again in 2013.

                  But hey, lets draft an unproven QB and put him on an 0-16 team when we've got a legend already here. I understood the Lions doing it after we went 0-16, but the Colts are addressing the wrong issue here.

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                  • ralaw
                    Posts too much
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 6662

                    #24
                    Originally posted by NAHSTE
                    NOT FOR ANOTHER TWENTY YEARS! LUCK IS THE LAST GOOD QB PROSPECT EVER!!

                    - The Narrative
                    That's actually a good point and you have caused me to change my position.

                    Do you need the "greatest prospect" since John Elway to win in the NFL? Eh, Elway didn't win anything until Terrell Davis go there. They should trade the pick, fill the roster with the picks from the trade and bring in a young guy to groom later. We’ve seen what Dalton, Newton, Bradford, Flacco, Ryan, etc have done, so there are a host of guys who can play and be productive regardless of draft hype.

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                    • NAHSTE
                      Probably owns the site
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 22233

                      #25
                      Originally posted by ralaw
                      That's actually a good point and you have caused me to change my position.

                      Do you need the "greatest prospect" since John Elway to win in the NFL? Eh, Elway didn't win anything until Terrell Davis go there. They should trade the pick, fill the roster with the picks from the trade and bring in a young guy to groom later. We’ve seen what Dalton, Newton, Bradford, Flacco, Ryan, etc have done, so there are a host of guys who can play and be productive regardless of draft hype.
                      Absolutely not. For one, you can do it with a guy like Andrew Dalton at this point. For two, there are 4 or 5 other great QB prospects available in this draft.

                      If Indy really wants to draft an eventual successor to Peyton this year, there are a few to choose from. They could trade down, collect a ton of extra picks, reload for Peyton's final run and still end up with Landry Jones or Matt Barkley for the future.

                      But I guess being dictated by the Todd McShays of the world makes perfect sense too.

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                      • Juggernaut
                        Sitting on the Sidelines
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 5669

                        #26
                        Homerness out of the way, would love to see him go to the Jets just to see Manning and Brady in the same division. Would get 2 amazing games a year until he retires.

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                        • JOHNNYTHECLOWN
                          WAAAASSSSUUUUP
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 3422

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Houstonboi
                          He needs to do this to Jim Caldwell.

                          Peyton Manning goes crazy [FULL CLIP] - YouTube
                          Peyton's such a pussy.

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                          • NAHSTE
                            Probably owns the site
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 22233

                            #28
                            Originally posted by mgoblue2290
                            But hey, lets draft an unproven QB and put him on an 0-16 team when we've got a legend already here. I understood the Lions doing it after we went 0-16, but the Colts are addressing the wrong issue here
                            Only thing better than sucking for Luck? Sucking with Luck.

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                            • Tailback U
                              No substitute 4 strength.
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 10282

                              #29
                              So you guys are more sure that Peyton will return at 100% and play a few more years than you are of Luck becoming a good QB prospect?

                              What's the bigger risk for the franchise? Trading Peyton for picks and players to rebuild for the future around Luck or trading Luck to try to get one more SB with Peyton?

                              I mean do you guys really think the Colts can go from winless to a Super Bowl just because of Manning? I don't see how drafting Luck to sit behind Manning is a good idea when the team has so many holes to fill. If you keep Manning, you keep him to win a Super Bowl NOW and to do that I think the Colts definitely need to trade Luck.

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                              • G-men
                                Posts too much
                                • Nov 2011
                                • 7579

                                #30
                                NAHSTE got it right. They need to trade the #1 pick to a team like the Seahawks, Chiefs, or Dolphins and stack up on picks and players. They will still have a top 10 pick from either of those teams that they trade with, which they can use to draft Matt Barkley or Landry Jones. Then Barkley or Jones can be the guy that sits and learns from Manning to take over the team in 3-5 years.

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